Recycled Roles V2 Endgame!!!!!!

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Given the current understanding of my role, getting lynched was the best move though it wasn't intentional. That said, I realize I could have revoted for Moozer after whiteflame voted for me, then said something like "You guys owe me for giving you the win, now attack me at night so we can both win." Though that may have just ended the game since it would be 2v2 at that point.
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@Casey_Risk
Earth, did you rolecop Whiteflame because you were expecting me to track you?
That was the plan.
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You had one job
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Yeah just searched and discovered that's how Pie won in the original game. So I guess I win too lol.
That's what I thought lol. GG's then! haha
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I did suspect a rolecop as the reason I wasn't getting killed at night. Surprised you never used it on me since you and wf knew I was trying to draw the night kill.
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Oh, should say another reason I suspected you was that I was targeted n1 and last game you were annoyed with everyone letting me live through the first day.

Also were you actually online 20 minutes before posting? I thought I remembered you posting very quickly, and if I'm right about that, then I'll feel smart.
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@Savant
I did suspect a rolecop as the reason I wasn't getting killed at night. Surprised you never used it on me since you and wf knew I was trying to draw the night kill.
It would have been interesting to see if they would have tried to pursue you as a lynch earlier if they had. 
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All in all a GG. I think my only major mistake was going along with the plan to VTNL instead of pushing for a lynch. I was very confident the scum were WF and Moozer, but I actually sussed Moozer more. Oh, well. As I said, GG.
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All in all a GG. I think my only major mistake was going along with the plan to VTNL instead of pushing for a lynch. I was very confident the scum were WF and Moozer, but I actually sussed Moozer more. Oh, well. As I said, GG.
Well technically moozer was scum too, so if your only sin this game was suspecting another scum, you did well lol. 
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The only advise I think I would give to town, and it was stated by someone earlier in the game, we are giving way too much credit to "confirmation roles" these days on DART. I've been guilty of this too. But its how austin and savant won in mahabarata as well. I almost wanted to do this game and randomize roles affiliations so town roles could be maf and vice versa to help push the narrative that behavior should be taken into account with results. Because that was really caseys only major doubt this game, was his night actions. And barney kind of got thunderdomed by joebob because his role technically wasn't confirmable pre-death, so that was a basic free mislynch for mafia when town was already up after mafia had  a night kill blocked. 
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Sorry, man. I think you played pretty well, but the town just had too much working against it.
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I did suspect a rolecop as the reason I wasn't getting killed at night. Surprised you never used it on me since you and wf knew I was trying to draw the night kill.
We decided it wasn’t worth the risk of him getting tracked to you. Probably should have just gone for it last NP, but it seemed unimportant by then. Our gambit of having Earth use it on me worked out, and we figured out Moozer early, so I think we made the right call, but I was confounded by your role.

Oh, should say another reason I suspected you was that I was targeted n1 and last game you were annoyed with everyone letting me live through the first day.
I picked you because I thought you were the Cop. You claimed to be hard confirmable, and when I looked back through that game, it was either that or the Messenger and I didn’t think you’d claim the latter was hard confirmable in one NP after the last game. When you didn’t die, I assumed Pie has Doc’d you. Still assumed that until we killed him, actually.

Also were you actually online 20 minutes before posting? I thought I remembered you posting very quickly, and if I'm right about that, then I'll feel smart.
I wasn’t lying, I did spend about 20 minutes writing that up while online. I hopped off immediately afterward, which would probably be enough to make me look scummy anyway.
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The only advise I think I would give to town, and it was stated by someone earlier in the game, we are giving way too much credit to "confirmation roles" these days on DART. I've been guilty of this too. But it’s how austin and savant won in mahabarata as well. I almost wanted to do this game and randomize roles affiliations so town roles could be maf and vice versa to help push the narrative that behavior should be taken into account with results. Because that was really caseys only major doubt this game, was his night actions. And barney kind of got thunderdomed by joebob because his role technically wasn't confirmable pre-death, so that was a basic free mislynch for mafia when town was already up after mafia had  a night kill blocked. 
I thought Savant was the bleeder or something. When he didn’t die DP3 I had alarm bells going off. But he wasn’t scum so I figured he was the Doctor 
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@Savant
Sorry, man. I think you played pretty well, but the town just had too much working against it.
Wasn’t the first time and won’t be the last sadly
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Very nicely done in #27. Too bad the mafia team was coordinated (even with that being how you spotted them).
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I hopped off immediately afterward
I did notice that. When you denied posting so quickly I did question my memory a bit, but I stuck to my story since it kept pressure on you and I figured you were scum anyway.
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Too bad the mafia team was coordinated
Yeah, luckily my strategy ended up giving me the win anyway somehow. If Moozer had been lynched, I think the game may have just ended.
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I did notice that. When you denied posting so quickly I did question my memory a bit, but I stuck to my story since it kept pressure on you and I figured you were scum anyway.
Yeah, you had my number, as did Pie for obvious reasons.

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Lol, I was so close to figuring it out.
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Two third parties is pretty scumsided lol. Even if they don't explicitly side with scum they still distract town from it's main wincon (Moozer is a condemner, Savant is a pseudo-one since he needs to lynch someone to save them). Also Luna you're a troll for putting Ninja in with Tracker and Motion Detector lol. Seer is an interesting role for sure but very swingy.

Sorry for being inactive DP1 although I'm still mildly annoyed that you guys think I would coast like this as scum, I have a pretty wide range in terms of playstyle but I never lurk as either alignment without RL circumstances.
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Two third parties is pretty scumsided lol. Even if they don't explicitly side with scum they still distract town from it's main wincon (Moozer is a condemner, Savant is a pseudo-one since he needs to lynch someone to save them).
I don't know if it's scum sided because mafia was convinced savant was town the whole time, and he even blocked a night kill lol. But yeah it was suppose to add a lil bit of chaos. Minus that dynamic I figure mafia might have got steamrolled a bit based on pies strategy of locking people into a game thing. That was actually a mechanic that severely hurt the mafia in this game, where they should have had millions of fake claims, that simple tool forced them into a subset of more CC'able claims early on. 

Also Luna you're a troll for putting Ninja in with Tracker and Motion Detector lol. Seer is an interesting role for sure but very swingy.

Idk about that being troll either, I think mafia should have a counter to every town power role. They specifically had to sacrifice their role cop two night phases in a row just to mess with the tracker too lol. The only thing they didnt have a counter to was joebob, and the doctor, but I figured not having a counter to the doctor was okay in this siutation since the doctor was more likely to act in self interest rather than in towns interest. Which ended up being the case. 

Sorry for being inactive DP1 although I'm still mildly annoyed that you guys think I would coast like this as scum, I have a pretty wide range in terms of playstyle but I never lurk as either alignment without RL circumstances.
That was wierd to me that you got lynched. I get lynching inactives. but yeah your not known for being inactive. It worries me because I can see this type of thing happening to me with my schedule. I wouldn't have opted to lynch you in this game if I was a town player in it rather than the host. Seemed like way to easy of a mislynch oppertunity. No one questioned it either which was weird.