So many people are turned away from Biden because of his age, but first of all, Trump is only 3 years younger! So why not say the same about him? Also, there is much more evidence that Trump has dementia than Biden does. But to set even that aside, It's stupid to measure a president's worth based on their age, especially in this scenario. We have seen both candidates in the white house, so none of this is speculative. Biden has proven that he can do the job, and that is all that really matters. Sure, you could say his age might have an effect on his policies, but he has proven that it doesn't. You can only really make this argument against a president who hasn't served, and both candidates have. We should judge a president based on his policies, and the work they did. Nothing else.
I don't get the problem with Bidens Age
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Yeah, 77 on bad diet isnt that far from 80.
Plus, Trump is fat, which means he is more likely to have health issues.
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@Moozer325
Because of the complexity of the world the minimum IQ for a USA President should be 150. John F Kennedy had an IQ of 159.
Trump's IQ is listed at 101 but I don't think it is that high. Thomas Jefferson had an IQ of 160.
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@FLRW
I wouldn’t necessarily agree with that, mostly because IQ doesn’t correlate directly with how well you can govern a country. You do need some degree of intelligence, but IQ is a very imperfect measure of that, and so I don’t think it should be used in such a high stakes situation. You also need leadership skills, and you need to have a good Idea of the demands of the people in your country. You need to be open to criticism, and all of that stuff isn’t really governed directly by intelligence, which isn’t even really the same as IQ.
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@Moozer325
It's because his brain is failing, not because of his age. That is a sleight of hand designed to distract and make people compare to Trump's age and point out the fact that there are tons of people at 95 who are still capable of kicking your ass at chess and remembering what they did when they were 25.
You can be old and have a fully functioning brain, but Biden is not one of those lucky people.
Also, there is much more evidence that Trump has dementia than Biden does.
Not if you filter out hearsay and limit yourself to public video recorded evidence.
Biden has proven that he can do the job
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Sure, you could say his age might have an effect on his policies, but he has proven that it doesn't.
Or you have proven they aren't his policies.
We should judge a president based on his policies, and the work they did. Nothing else.
Sounds fine to me.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
Alright, I was wrong to start accusing Trump of being worse than Biden. That was unsupported. But focusing on the real issue, you said that the age isn't the problem, and it's Bidens mental capacity. But at least from my point of view, Biden has done a good-ish job as president, and all of my main issues with him is that he is too moderate, which really has nothing to do with his age. He has handled everything non-partisan with the skill that any president should, and I agree with his partisan policies much more than I do Trump's. I think he really has proven that he can run the country, and you can't say he is unfit based on things he did that are against your political views. You just kinda have to be impartial when measuring the worth of presidents without the benefit of hindsight.
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@Moozer325
I don't think he's handled anything. I think the executive branch is being run by a committee whose members we may never know.
That committee has many policies I disagree with, but the primary reason I'm voting for Trump and not Biden is because what they're doing to Trump is a message to "sit down and shut up" to anyone who would threaten the core elements of the military industrial (and now pharmacological) complex, the governmental portion being known as the deep state and the international portion being known as the globalist.
As far as I can tell that movement is:
A) Highly dishonest
B) Partly deluded by collectivist utopian fallacy
C) Partly sociopathic imperialists
D) Generally completely happy to carve their living off the backs of people they're stealing from and defrauding like the parasites they are.
There are people who vote on philosophy and world trajectory like me, but very few.
There are way more that vote based on perception of average prosperity, and they aren't happy.
Those who vote based on a Hollywood idea that the president is some kind of pinnacle of intelligence or morality and they are most disturbed by Biden's dementia.
What are you? Not sure:
He has handled everything non-partisan with the skill that any president should,
I can't think of anything except that which could be described as ceremonial.
Since it is non-partisan I shouldn't have any problem agreeing if you show some examples?
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@ADreamOfLiberty
Not to come off as too provoking, but is there any evidence to back this claim up? Sure, it could be possible, but that doesn’t mean that it is happening. I’m not saying you’re definitely wrong, but this sounds a bit like a conspiracy theory. I would like to take a look at some of these sources though, because you have somewhat of a point. As to “what I am”, I would say a very left leaning democrat who thinks that Biden is too moderate.
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@Moozer325
but this sounds a bit like a conspiracy theory
Conspiracies do exist, and one which requires as little coordination as this one does are such a permissive definition of "conspiracy" as to include all wars in the definition.
What are wars but people conspiring to defeat another conspiracy?
I would like to take a look at some of these sources though
The information is everywhere, the conclusion requires a well developed sense of relative probabilities when trying to fit all the pieces together into a coherent world view.
In other words, there is no single smoking gun and there never will be because there is no single conspiracy.
As to “what I am”,
I meant what motivates you to vote and what factors do you care about.
If you only care about policy and outcome like me, you don't care if the candidate's brain is broken or that he's a scoundrel if the outcome of his/her election is better than the alternative.
In other words is the office a ball in your game of pool or do you actually look for people who you can trust to do the right thing? I don't trust anyone who has ever had a chance in my lifetime.
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@Moozer325
People just find something to criticize about.
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@FLRW
Because of the complexity of the world the minimum IQ for a USA President should be 150.
The average POTUS IQ I don't think is this high. It's better to not have a minimum IQ requirement; it's not like the typical person would vote for Napolean Dynomite in any primary regardless of what party he ran as. All presidents have had an IQ of at least 120 (All The US Presidents, Ranked By IQ (ranker.com)).
Your cutoff would have excluded 35 out of the 44 presidents we have had (including Lincoln; who everyone likes).
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@TheUnderdog
We didn't have Quantum Theory when Lincoln was President.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
The information is everywhere, the conclusion requires a well developed sense of relative probabilities when trying to fit all the pieces together into a coherent world view.In other words, there is no single smoking gun and there never will be because there is no single conspiracy.
Well then I can’t take you seriously, and I hope you can maybe re-examine you beliefs. Maybe there is no smoking gun, but can you show me any of this “evidence” that is all around? You can’t, and so I can’t take you seriously.
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@Moozer325
I can show you, it would just take a long time. As for how seriously you take me, that is not something I can control.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
I’ve got time, let’s see it. I am interested in what you have to say.
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@FLRW
True, but it's not like POTUSes should have to know about Quantum theory.
I still don't understand why Americans are not considering to vote for Kennedy, he seems to be a better option than Biden and Trump.
I'm thinking that Americans fall into fanaticism when sticking their votes in a specific political party. I mean, I can't conceive a person voting for an old man with mental health issues like Biden, but Dems do it.
Ok, you don't like Trump so why don't you vote for Kennedy whose relative was a Democrat president? They won't do that because they're political sectarians.
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@TheUnderdog
Actually they should because then they would know that there is no God.
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@IlDiavolo
They rigged the democrat primary against RFK just like they did before with against Sanders and Tulsi Gabbert.
Why? Who wants Biden over these people for policies? Nobody, except the deep state war mongers. Those three people are peace risks (they might do something which reduces global conflict).
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@ADreamOfLiberty
Biden gets all the donors and delegates because he nods yes when corruption is on the line.
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@Greyparrot
Yep, Hilary would have done (for a cut) but she was dropping too many sociopath hints for the public and they didn't have a handle on the polls.
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@FLRW
Quantum theory is for physicists to know, not politicians.
How does it disprove god?
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@ADreamOfLiberty
Who wants Biden over these people for policies? Nobody, except the deep state war mongers.
All the same, if you were right, dems should vote for Kennedy.
I don’t know how the politic works in the US but I guess the political affiliation runs in the family, there is no getaway. Am I right?
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@IlDiavolo
I guess the political affiliation runs in the family, there is no getaway. Am I right?
Nah, it's in the peer group, and the peer groups are indoctrinated by the information source... or in the case of the left tribe the propaganda source (circa when they lost control of the right-tribe).
So for example a kid goes to big city college, there is an excellent chance they break away from their parents politics.
The primary left-to-right conversion is through micro-journalism as seen on social media. That's why IWRA sneers and laughs like some kind of evil wizard in a dark tower whenever he sees the hostname "rumble".
Which is not to say that real life experience doesn't matter, it certainly makes people question their default position which they typically didn't think about much more than the brand of windshield wipers on their car. Then they go looking for answers and they get red pilled, 'radicalized' as the propaganda organizations call it.
It's been called "information war" or since it's internal "information civil war".
So in conclusion its far far less stable than inheriting party loyalty. Trust is a lot harder to earn than to lose. When nobody trusts anything there will be nothing left be fragmentation.
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@TheUnderdog
Divine action through quantum biology leads to unsavoury implications for theodicy. If God’s action in the quantum domain is not episodic, and instead God acts through quantum processes to actualise biological events like DNA mutations, then responsibility for diseases which come from such mutations must also lie with God. Cancer, for example, is caused by mutations in the genes that control cell growth. If responsibility for the quantum processes that cause genetic mutations lies with God, then by Robert Russell’s own account of bottom-up causality God is also responsible for the diseases themselves and the physical and psychological suffering they cause. To be consistent, the claim that moral responsibility is carried up the causal chain must apply to both praise and blame. If God is considered ultimately responsible for the higher-level goods which emerge moving up the causal chain, such as speciation, then mutatis mutandis he is also responsible for cancers and other similarly caused diseases. Cancer is one of the primary causes of death in humans and brings with it great pain and suffering; the claim that God is responsible jars with the idea that God is omnibenevolent and is a significant problem for Russell’s thesis.
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@IlDiavolo
I still don't understand why Americans are not considering to vote for Kennedy, he seems to be a better option than Biden and Trump.
Because he’s a crazy Conspiracy theorist and a bigot, that’s why.
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@Moozer325
Because he’s a crazy Conspiracy theorist and a bigot, that’s why.
How would RFK be a bigot? I can understand the conspiracy theory part.
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@FLRW
Divine action through quantum biology leads to unsavoury implications for theodicy. If God’s action in the quantum domain is not episodic, and instead God acts through quantum processes to actualise biological events like DNA mutations, then responsibility for diseases which come from such mutations must also lie with God. Cancer, for example, is caused by mutations in the genes that control cell growth. If responsibility for the quantum processes that cause genetic mutations lies with God, then by Robert Russell’s own account of bottom-up causality God is also responsible for the diseases themselves and the physical and psychological suffering they cause. To be consistent, the claim that moral responsibility is carried up the causal chain must apply to both praise and blame. If God is considered ultimately responsible for the higher-level goods which emerge moving up the causal chain, such as speciation, then mutatis mutandis he is also responsible for cancers and other similarly caused diseases. Cancer is one of the primary causes of death in humans and brings with it great pain and suffering; the claim that God is responsible jars with the idea that God is omnibenevolent and is a significant problem for Russell’s thesis.
well stated
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@3RU7AL
Thanks BF!
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@TheUnderdog
How would RFK be a bigot? I can understand the conspiracy theory part.
what is the conspiracy theory you're thinking of ?