BotW Mafia Endgame

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I sincerely couldn’t tell you why it was consistently an uphill battle to get Savant lynched.
Bit of a mystery to me as well, but Austin backing me up probably helped with that.
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Well if nothing else, I think I Learned my lesson about balancing the roles. I had all these cool ideas, but I didn't really stop to think if any of them were too over-powered.
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And, about not making a too obvious theme split.
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King Roham? Sorry to ejaculate as someone who didn't participate in this mafia round, but it is King Rhoam. Get it right.
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I am so mad at myself now. 
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Bit of a mystery to me as well, but Austin backing me up probably helped with that.
I had a strong feeling he was scum at the end of the DP, especially given how much he was backing you. He was much less obvious in DP2, so I reconsidered my read, but he would have been in my PoE come DP3. Not that that would have mattered.
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Were you online during dp3, and if so, when did you realize it was definitely Austin and I?
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Were you online during dp3, and if so, when did you realize it was definitely Austin and I?
As soon as he posted that wall of text. The fact that he used his role on you was confusing, but not obviously scummy. The long and detailed explanation of why Barney was scummy came off as way too much for something that was relatively obvious and that Barney had already admitted to doing. The subsequent vote didn’t help - jumping on the lynch that quickly with any odds of a quick hammer wouldn’t make sense for a town Austin who would have spent at least some time talking this out with the most townread player (Luna) before securing anything.

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The fact that he used his role on you was confusing, but not obviously scummy
I thought it was reasonable enough. You and Luna were obviously targets, Casey a PGO, I needed to scumread Barney, and I was pretending I hadn't read the last few pages of DP2 so I could say I thought BK spewed Joe as scum.

The long and detailed explanation of why Barney was scummy came off as way too much for something that was relatively obvious and that Barney had already admitted to doing.
Tbh I was gambling that Casey and Joe would buy it and that Luna would be too busy at work lol.

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Tbh I was gambling that Casey and Joe would buy it and that Luna would be too busy at work lol.
Well, Barney sure bought it.
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I thought it was reasonable enough. You and Luna were obviously targets, Casey a PGO, I needed to scumread Barney, and I was pretending I hadn't read the last few pages of DP2 so I could say I thought BK spewed Joe as scum.
Yeah, I don’t know how he was thinking about it, but JoeBob would have been the ideal target if you were town given what you said before. Just didn’t make much sense to me to pick Savant over him. I would have understood not picking Luna on the off chance that I’d be RB’d.

Tbh I was gambling that Casey and Joe would buy it and that Luna would be too busy at work lol.
You definitely got Casey. Hell, you even had Barney convinced there was nothing he could do to defend himself.
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Barney voting himself made me laugh because Austin and I had a whole contingency plan of me pretending to try to hammer myself but Austin unvoting a second before I posted. Basically, to convince everyone I couldn't be scum.
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Barney voting himself made me laugh because Austin and I had a whole contingency plan of me pretending to try to hammer myself but Austin unvoting a second before I posted. Basically, to convince everyone I couldn't be scum.
Wouldn't have worked on me, but it probably would have made some of the others hesitate.

Honestly, I just hope we don't pull this "this player gets a pass through DP1" nonsense again. They said the same thing last game when you and I were scum, though they ended up voting you because you were more behaviorally obvious. You did better behaviorally this time around. Love that Austin was basically saying "yeah, my scum partner will reveal himself behaviorally as scummy if you give him another DP." I thought that was a pretty ridiculous argument.

Also, it would really be nice if BK didn't throw over the table because he was bored in DP2. He was doing pretty well in DP1, which makes it all the more frustrating.

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Wouldn't have worked on me
Yep. I told Austin you would have to be dead for it to work.
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gg 
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Honestly, I just hope we don't pull this "this player gets a pass through DP1" nonsense again
It’s not gonna happen again
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Next game I definitely gotta be more aggressive with my reads. I thought it was Austin and Savant for a bit but didn’t act on it. Savant was so content on getting Barney out he was getting scum read by me, but I don’t do anything. I gotta work on that.

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Looks like you guys win!

Congratulations and well played.
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I understand scumreading Barney after his role blew up in his face, and I definitely get Austin and Savant’s rushing it, but I sincerely don’t know why both Barney and Chris rushed to a lynch (come on, Barney, you could have fought at least a little before just voting yourself). At minimum, people should have interrogated the actions of players instead of jumping on lynches.
I'm assuming that by Chris you mean me? To be honest, the thing that pushed me over the edge and made me convinced I should lynch Barney was that he basically put up no resistance to it whatsoever and even voted to lynch himself. It made it seem like even he thought it was a foregone conclusion that he would be lynched, so why waste any time?

That said, I definitely should have been more patient and paid more attention to everything that was going on. I'm definitely going to try to do better the next game that I'm town.
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Sorry, I mistyped that. Yeah, I meant you. I made the same mistake not too long ago and it made me rethink how I was approaching later DPs. Worth considering as much information as you can, even if you feel pretty strongly that one person is scum.

I’m glad you participated with us, and I hope you’ll do so again in the future.

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Sorry I dropped the ball so badly this game, twice in fact.

I do really like the idea of mafia and town sharing some powers. The mafia role blocker is a cool idea, but if mafia can RB everyone (and there's only a couple people who get told action failed) then it's comparable to a 1x insane cop. Which isn't to say don't do that, but perhaps have one more weak investigator in town to counter balance?