The Game of Life: Consciousness, Cellular Automata, and Quantum Fluctuations

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I was excited last night as I watched a video on YouTube with Tom Campbell. He had almost the same idea I have had on the beginning of consciousness. The basic idea is this: there was nothing except a void, with random fluctuations of information. Then there was, out of randomness, a pattern. This pattern was able to sustain itself, a cellular automaton. This became the first consciousness.
My idea is nearly the same. Except that the "void" is space, and the random fluctuations of information are quantum fluctuations. If you add in Panpsychism, everything falls together. There is no "first" consciousness, there is always consciousness in the universe. If every particle already has consciousness, just a tiny spark of awareness, then awareness is popping in and out of existence all the time. Patterns occasionally form out of randomness. This is a slightly higher awareness for a brief time. Even more rarely, you get the occasional pattern that forms a sustained (not indefinitely) pattern, a cellular automaton. Usually these automata peter out after a while, as in the Game of Life.
I first heard of the Game of Life in a science fiction novel called "Courtship Rite" by Donald Kingsbury. You start with initial conditions, usually two different color tiles in a rectangular or square bordered frame. There is a simple rule set, such as "black flips to white if three corners are touching white". Then when the game starts, the tiles begin to follow the rules, flipping or staying the same, creating "moving" patterns that seem to move with a life of their own. Sometimes, a pattern will repeat many times, staying in place, or moving across the board. These little pockets of pattern are called cellular automata.
If this actually happens in the quantum world, and I don't see why it couldn't, then the consciousness of these automata would be a little more aware. The entire automata may have it's own separate consciousness from each individual part, as each human has a separate consciousness than each individual cell in the body. This idea is called "holons", coined by Arthur Koestler.
The automaton, like all consciousness, has a sense of survival. It may then figure out how to keep it's pattern going. Eventually, it may learn other things, such as how to evolve in order to stay "alive". It may begin to learn how to manipulate other automata or particles, perhaps incorporating them into it's own patterns. It may learn how to create new patterns. It builds the first simple atom, them molecules, eventually there are clouds of dust, and finally, suns.
Then eventually, we get the universe we see today. We are all nodes in this larger consciousness, as is each particle, molecule, animal, sun, galaxy.
But there is still the overarching consciousness, that incorporates all into itself. I call it God.
If this is true, and I don't know if it is, then we really are all connected. It perfectly explains entanglement and nonlocality. There is a consciousness that connects everything.
The first automata must have had only base instincts. Perhaps only the survival instinct. I can't imagine it having higher emotions such as love or guilt. These must have evolved much later. I can see it may have felt an instinctual fear of it's demise. at first. Then as it evolved and progressed, higher emotions evolved,and that's why we have them today. As an overarching consciousness, it may experience even higher emotions we can't even imagine.
It must also be at a much higher level of consciousness than a human being. With everything in the universe connected, there must be many, many more connections than in the neural networks in our brain. The whole universe is like a giant brain. Although consciousness doesn't require a brain, higher intelligence might
If all this is true, then this ultimate consciousness must be much older than the age of the known universe, 13.7 billion years. It must have taken billions of years of evolution to get to the point of being able to create suns. This consciousness has been around for a long time indeed.
I can't imagine being conscious for billions of years. What it must have gone through! Did it create us, other intelligent beings, to have someone to talk to? That seems a bit silly, but I wonder.

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I'm glad you are exploring this version of god. I have a few critiques of Mr. Campbell. One is that he asserts too much knowledge in the unknowable. I am always wary of guru types, sage type people when they start explaining the process of how this consciousness came about. Bc if they can truly imagine it, they should know full well there is more than one way it can be possible. So, if they go off one and try to sell it... i feel they are just doing it for a pay day. I don't remember Campbell's videos enough to remember if he is guilty of this, but i do remember feeling that way when i watched a couple of his videos. Ultimately, this type of thinking is my favorite version of "god" ... but he also does speak of this intelligence as an individual which i am and most people talking about this platform are against. Bc if this god is everything it is everything... and by being this way it makes this entity more of an 'it' rather than a 'who.' I think he is trying to sell this idea to the main religious followers so he is trying to make it relatable. If he is doing that on purpose than it's sorta genius... but if he truly believe it as is, i would say he has more thinking to do into the implications of such a being. 

Overall, he is one guy i really like. If you are getting interested in this type of platform i would suggest looking up experts / talkers in the subject of non-duality. It is the most likely i would say platform to suspect if it were true. I'm currently listening to this video and i like what the guy has been saying so far, but i'm only a few minutes into it so i don't know... it seem interesting though. 

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I have watched a lot of Campbell,, he certainly thinks he "knows" what he is talking about. I take it with a grain of salt. He does have interesting ideas though.
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Oh okay so i remembered correctly. Yeah, he does have an interesting version of this non-dual entity. One of the ways it can manifest is that it has been evolving for eons and it eventually has got to where we are. That is certainly possible, but so is that this consciousness has always existed. It's an infinite source where everything is happening and has happened. That is one of the more favorite ones of people like him bc it's counter intuitive since the latter anthropomorphizes the possibility. There is no reason for why we should be able to comprehend it and put it into simple processes. But overall non-duality i would say is the best spiritual platform bc it very much seems like that's what's going on. A lot can be explained by such a platform.  
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That it evolved is something I can comprehend.(Not that I necessarily believe that though, it is just comprehensible in my mind, might be a holdover from my former materialism)

That an all-knowing intelligence always existed as is  is not comprehensible to me. But that very well may be the case.


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Yeah evolving made sense to me for a long time and what i pitched as most probable. But then thinking about it, i don't see why it wouldn't be the counter intuitive answer either. If we are all a manifestation of an infinite source of consciousness, this source could have always existed. But if it evolved, it would actually explain why we evolve. For in its evolution every type of human would be created from primitive to more advanced. So every one would need to play a role for the other to exist when this source manifests life. That's harder to answer in case it's always existed. Bc then i wouldn't see why it just wouldn't start out civilizations in an advanced stage. But then again... there may be deep reason for why it must follow that progression. It's really unknowable. The best one can do in understanding this source is to try and 1) empathize with it in that trying to imagine what it would be like as it is now, and 2) to try and experience it which you can do through many ways such as meditation, dreams, and even hallucinogenic drugs. I personally experienced it by all three of those methods. 
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Well you know me and I find this fascinating of course and I do like your version better than Campbells. Right of the bat though I'll have to say I'm not convinced about the consciousness particles "popping in and out" proposal as being some evolution of consciousness or how it began, I understand its relevance to our physical universe (as in the process of creating forms) but not from a pure conscious perspective. For one it seems to contradict our own experience. Rather, I favor consciousness being more like a fixed state, there was no "beginning" or evolving into a greater consciousness.....it's just a fixed reality of conscious activity where it only "grows" from what It experiences through creating, it doesn't evolve in form or from another form, only forms in creation do IMO anyways.

There is a possibility there is some sort of evolution of types, as far as experience goes but there was never a time where It was not there or that It was a "lower" consciousness from what I gather prsonally. This state can learn through experience but it doesn't evolve from "sludge" to something grand. Not like the type of evolution you see in the created worlds where forms begin as patterns and cellular automata to more advanced forms and creatures no not that type of evolving.

Consciousness always was and it can only learn, not change in form to something greater or more advanced. I'm open to the idea but I find the scenario unlikely.

However, I believe what you are describing here "Patterns occasionally form out of randomness. This is a slightly higher awareness for a brief time. Even more rarely, you get the occasional pattern that forms a sustained (not indefinitely) pattern, a cellular automaton. Usually these automata peter out after a while"...... is the manifestation of the fixed state of consciousness into the "material" world, this is the process to create form not consciousness itself. In other words when we measure or observe activity at any level, it is a manifestation of a static state. This activity manifests from the conscious state, it's not evolving Itself, It is evolving material form into structures and embodiments capable of inhabiting souls.
Panpsychism is right on the money BTW.

My theory is that from this static or fixed conscious state there is only the activity of consciousness/awareness (which is not physically able to be observed), this of course naturally produces thought and this reality generates energy and it is from this original state that we see activity taking place and "popping in and out" from what we can physical observe to what we cannot. This would fit sense energy is described as being neither created or destroyed, but the question begs then why does it act as an intelligence or like it has an awareness? the answer of course is that it IS intelligent, energy is present with conscious activity and is also manipulated to create form from this fixed state of awareness. And this is what we see in reality, energy creating form and arrangements in creation so that conscious life could and can be experienced through.
One mistake that can be made when examining creation or the material world is to focus on results (or activity), only rather everything and every movement, result and manipulation of energy comes out of a pure, fixed conscious and intelligent state and this is where all things originate. Consciousness is creating movement and manifesting itself through material form. This is a process actually, to manifest in form from a state of pure awareness is a process of evolving from one point to another and depending on what is being created it can take quite awhile. But this is only true for the material world, and really time has not much relevance to an eternal consciousness to say the least.

Good job, I agree with much of the OP. It really has a lot of potential. One thing I'm not really sure about is "higher consciousness" needing a brain or a bigger brain. Higher consciousness is that which pervades all from the outside, it doesn't need a brain it is already an unrestricted awareness. The brain and brain size is needed for higher conscious experience through embodiments, not God. Because now that conscious individualized soul is restricted to the anatomy of that body and form. This is what reduces and confines your experience here in this realm and why you need it. But God does not need any brain, conscious intelligence collects as creation collects experiences but it is already in the highest state of consciousness possible independent of any material construct. Everything that manifests out of this is a limited lesser form.
The brain is also your connection from your soul to your physical body, but it does not dictate your awareness, experience does. The brain is nothing more than a component, a restrictor liked we talked about before. But anyways all in all this is great stuff!


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The first automata must have had only base instincts. Perhaps only the survival instinct. I can't imagine it having higher emotions such as love or guilt. These must have evolved much later. I can see it may have felt an instinctual fear of it's demise. at first. Then as it evolved and progressed, higher emotions evolved,and that's why we have them today. As an overarching consciousness, it may experience even higher emotions we can't even imagine.

As I wrote above, IMO I believe this is only true of material creation, the physical universe. But it is interesting. I like where you are going with all of this. So don't be offended if I give some feedback! Remember that God experiences both from the Ultimate Reality as well as through forms. So while what you're saying is true at one level, it does not apply to the other IMO. So at one level, what you are describing is true. 

It must also be at a much higher level of consciousness than a human being. With everything in the universe connected, there must be many, many more connections than in the neural networks in our brain. The whole universe is like a giant brain. Although consciousness doesn't require a brain, higher intelligence might

Interesting again...It is my beliefs that the soul is covered in layers, these are known as subtle bodies or spirit bodies. You have a connection with every part of the created dimensions from pure consciousness all the way down to the outer physical layer. 

If all this is true, then this ultimate consciousness must be much older than the age of the known universe, 13.7 billion years. It must have taken billions of years of evolution to get to the point of being able to create suns. This consciousness has been around for a long time indeed.
I can't imagine being conscious for billions of years. What it must have gone through! Did it create us, other intelligent beings, to have someone to talk to? That seems a bit silly, but I wonder.

Since God exists in a complete state of aloneness I would have to assume what I would assume of myself. That God creates to experience something in a different state where duality and form exist. It is genius that the Creator pulled it off. I am also very confident this is not the first created universe and a matter of fact there are several layers to the created worlds. 
But yes, I as stated the process of creating forms from a pure state of awareness takes quite awhile. 
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This would fit sense energy is described as being neither created or destroyed, but the question begs then why does it act as an intelligence or like it has an awareness?
I'm not sure what you mean here. What do you mean, that energy acts like it has intelligence or awareness?

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Yes, like what we see in creation. Energy taking on forms to a means end or particular result, where we see them currently.  
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Do you think energy is a "thing" which can exist independantly of matter?
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Well as I stated in my first post, I think energy is present with conscious activity and since consciousness is the original source I would say yes. First there would be energy present, then the process or manipulation of structured material. 
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In physics, energy is defined as the ability to "do work", whatever that is supposed to mean. But I have felt energy, including spiritual energy, and it is definitely a "thing" to me. Still hard for me to grasp what it actually is though. It seems to be tied in with will and emotions somehow. 
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Yeah i don't do big words. 

I read two lines, thank you thank you.

Try reading the complete first paragraph. 
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DRAW FOUR , red.


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I would assume since energy is basically some form of movement or activity, in this I would imagine a sort of temperature adjustment. Like as in kinetic energy, this energy is transferred at different states of awareness through varying speeds and vibrations. I think the "feeling" of energy has to do with that change in temperature adjustment. Obviously the greater the kinetic energy the greater the manifestation. In spiritual energy, which is still the same thing really, it's a higher rate output of energy and therefore probably more intense.  
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The subtle layers that cover the soul exist at a much higher, finer rate of vibration and therefore the experiences that correlate with that are distinct. Also the lightness and far less density of the spirit bodies compared to the physical are able to exist virtually for ever. 
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So your idea is: consciousness is energy, and matter is creation through structuring energy?
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Almost, consciousness is as far back to the wall as you can get, this is not observable from a material medium. Now, energy is present with that original conscious activity. In other words energy is the result of consciousness, not the other way around. The reason it can be said energy is not created, is because it wasn't, it is always present with conscious activity. It's more like an effect of conscious activity. Now, imagine that reality being omnipresent, the amount of generated energy from that reality is incredible. 
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Just spotted the soul word. 
Look I'm going to give this one a miss. 



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I don't think energy can exist without matter. They are both working together and a property of each other's existence. Have you studied non-duality? For a lot of your ideas fit in such a platform that's taught in most eastern philosophies. But it also makes sense even if we look at it as an atheist. Everything is one. There is no proof where i end and a table begins. It's only awareness and ego that observes duality. Therefore, it is likely all of this is the source. Energy being the way the source creates. But all of it is one and all of it is eternal. That's why energy can never die, it is the tool that moves matter in accordance with the sources manifestations. Therefore, it is an eternal tool of the source. Quite possibly, energy and matter were created at the same time by the source, that's one possibility. Or, it's just all existed with the source. Very hard to pin point this since we are talking about before the big bang type stuff. 
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What is energy
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Well the definition of that is pretty broad. What kind of energy do you mean? Heat? What it takes to move an object? Etc.
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What is the nature of energy. What are it's properties. Is it a physical thing
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I don't think it's physical. But i would imagine something like lighting is sorta physical. Don't know too much detail about energy. Just surface level stuff. Stuff like lighting is still a big mystery and other things like dark energy too. Anything else i tell you would be off of a google search not from personal knowledge. All i know is that it takes energy to move things.