Breath of the Wild Mafia DP1

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Can you guys say if you are one of the 6 characters mentioned by whiteflame?
I am not one of those 6 characters, but another major character that Whtieflame forgot to mention. Also I have this game, and have played it. Have not finished it, but I have interacted with this character in the game and can confirm it's a pretty big one. 
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"Despite her intimidating appearance, Urbosa is a rather charismatic and kind woman, she has a very strong maternal feeling towards Princess Zelda, since she was a friend of her mother, the Queen of Hyrule. She also has a joking side as she often liked to scare people with the lightning she conjured."

Not sure that matches loose cannon, but maybe it's a reference to the lightning?

Like I said in the other thread, we are going to have to be very careful reading into role justifications and links to roles. If you look at the role list moozer provided, some of the justifications for the characters having the role they do seems pretty bad. 
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So that’s Luna, Austin and Savant as the outliers. None of them can be one of the six unless they’re CCing. It’s possible they were barking up the wrong tree trying to limit scum like this, but atm, it seems plausible that scum is limited to that pool. I’d like to hear from all three about it (looks like Savant already responded).
There is a pretty big character that you didn't mention in your original post naming characters. That said, I can confirm my role this day phase, and plan on doing so before the time expires. Was planning on it anyway, so as not to waste it by getting night killed, as I tend to die early as town anyway. 
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Alright im caught up. You know what? I'll go ahead and full claim, I don't really see any reason not to, except for I guess if I wanted to use wagonomics to see how people voted and reacted, but honestly any analysis garnered from that is more or less WIFOM anyway. 

I am King Roham, the ruler of Hyrule. He's the old man you meet in the beginning of the game. Turns out you find out later on that he is King Roham (kind of a spoiler for me I guess since I haven't got to that part where that is apparently revealed, but it's been a year since I started the game and have only played it a few times casually since picking it up, so it's my fault for not finishing it earlier I guess).

My role is "King" (Ironically a role I've wanted to use myself for a while), I can unanimously decide the day's lynch at any point in the game. Like I said earlier I was planning on using this day phase one anyways, since I usually die pretty early as town (last game was an exception). 

I don't have a ton of reads at the moment, other than I am town reading BK who seems to be putting in a great deal of effort compared to their usual play. I am getting a good feeling from BK overall. Not sure who I will unanimously lynch yet, but I am in no rush. I will use the role at some point before EOD. 
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I feel like casey is probably town too, based on his claim and it existing in the last game. 
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I could technically confirm savant if there is major doubts about his slot but if he is town it will feel a bit like a waste of my role and just results in a delayed mislynch which doesn't accomplish a whole lot. And we gotta let the poor guy live past day one at least once right?
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My role is "King" (Ironically a role I've wanted to use myself for a while), I can unanimously decide the day's lynch at any point in the game. 
This changes things.

If Austin and you are both easily confirmable, it follows that you two cant be scum, thus at least one scum is among the 6 main characters.

I was hoping for an easy win, but I guess finding 2 non-confirmable roles and 2 confirmable without revealing any important role is still good enough for dp1.

I dont know if we revealed too much, but at least with this, we confirmed that scum was given strong fake claim among the 6.
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Just because their role is confirmable doesn't mean they are town.
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Just because their role is confirmable doesn't mean they are town.
Scum's biggest problem is usually confirming the fake role. The other big problem would be fake claim, but they were obviously given fake claim, so that leaves us with non-confirmable roles to hunt.
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Of course, all we have from austin is that his role is easily confirmable and that it will be obvious when used. Its a soft claim that he is still going to have to prove later.
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I could technically confirm savant if there is major doubts about his slot but if he is town it will feel a bit like a waste of my role and just results in a delayed mislynch which doesn't accomplish a whole lot. And we gotta let the poor guy live past day one at least once right?
I guess, but who is the lynch this dp except bleeder or granny?

We dont really have other options, unless you wanna search for more character and role claims?

I mean, in the end, its your choice given that you can decide lynch on your own.

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That makes it your lynch to decide, so it’s mainly a question of what would better inform it. I’ll leave that to you to decide, since I have a hard time believing that a mod would give scum a role that can unilaterally (you said “unanimously,” but that doesn’t make any sense since that term means that you’re getting agreement from everyone, not that you’re making the decision solo) decides the lynch.
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Did moozer give scum fake claims in LOTR?
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That makes it your lynch to decide, so it’s mainly a question of what would better inform it. I’ll leave that to you to decide, since I have a hard time believing that a mod would give scum a role that can unilaterally (you said “unanimously,” but that doesn’t make any sense since that term means that you’re getting agreement from everyone, not that you’re making the decision solo) decides the lynch.
Uh, yeah, unilaterally is the word I meant lol.

Anyways. I am not gonna be a tool with my role. I'll definitely take town input into account of my decision, unless for some reason I just wildly dis-agree with who everyone thinks is scummy or something which I don't really see being that big of an issue. And if I absolutely can't decide on a target today I'll just use it on savant to confirm him or whatever, though like I said, feels like a bit of a waste. 
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We dont really have other options, unless you wanna search for more character and role claims?
I am actually gonna suggest a mass character claim if you confirm you didn't get any fake claims in the last game. I don't see anything to suggest moozer would have changed much about his modding style, except to mix up the roles a little bit. Which means this is a straight good vs bad scenario again, and forcing everyone to claim we can verify weaker claims right off the bat. 

Also I don't think we should jump to conclusions about austin being town either just because his role is confirmable. I can think of "confirmable" scum roles as well. 

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That makes it your lynch to decide, so it’s mainly a question of what would better inform it. I’ll leave that to you to decide, since I have a hard time believing that a mod would give scum a role that can unilaterally (you said “unanimously,” but that doesn’t make any sense since that term means that you’re getting agreement from everyone, not that you’re making the decision solo) decides the lynch.
Uh, yeah, unilaterally is the word I meant lol.

Anyways. I am not gonna be a tool with my role. I'll definitely take town input into account of my decision, unless for some reason we just wildly dis-agree with who everyone thinks is scummy or something which I don't really see being that big of an issue. And if we absolutely can't decide on a target today I'll just use it on savant to confirm him or whatever, though like I said, feels like a bit of a waste. 

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I might be on for a bit longer but ill be crashing soon. If anyone has any last minute thoughts they wanna share, otherwise I'll catch up later and we can talk more options. 
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Did moozer give scum fake claims in LOTR?
In that game, we werent given fake claim.

All what we had was my power to reveal 2 town players. I chose Savant and whiteflame, and after seeing their roles and characters, we had somewhat of a hint of what town consists of, but it wasnt certain, but it was obvious enough that if we were right and if all characters were claimed, town would figure out that we were the odd ones, and we didnt have any hint of a role claim, so I had to come up with my own fake role and fake character, and hope it doesnt get counter claimed or stands out, which was too hard.

Scum basically had no chance to win lord of the rings, so the only plan I had was to take out all the most knowledgable town players first, to maybe only leave those who know nothing of series and wont figure us out.
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In that game, we werent given fake claim.

All what we had was my power to reveal 2 town players. I chose Savant and whiteflame, and after seeing their roles and characters, we had somewhat of a hint of what town consists of, but it wasnt certain, but it was obvious enough that if we were right and if all characters were claimed, town would figure out that we were the odd ones, and we didnt have any hint of a role claim, so I had to come up with my own fake role and fake character, and hope it doesnt get counter claimed or stands out, which was too hard.

Scum basically had no chance to win lord of the rings, so the only plan I had was to take out all the most knowledgable town players first, to maybe only leave those who know nothing of series and wont figure us out.

In that case what do you think of the mass claim idea? At least characters wise. 
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meant to tag bk
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Also I don't think we should jump to conclusions about austin being town either just because his role is confirmable. I can think of "confirmable" scum roles as well.
Austin placed a large burden on himself.

His role is not just confirmable, but obvious, and he probably dies when he uses it.

Besides, scum having confirmable roles is rare, especially not what austin described.

Maybe if scum has janitor, they can fake cop or doctor, but having an actual confirmable role is what in great amount of cases only town has.

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In that case what do you think of the mass claim idea? At least characters wise
I think we already know almost all characters in game, we just dont know who has them, so mass claiming of characters could help a bit. I dont think we have other alternative. Currently, only granny or bleeder are possible lynches, so if we are not ready to lynch them right now, we must find some other options.
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If we are mass claiming characters, I will start.

I am Mipha.

My role is confirmable.

I expect of everyone else to state their character and say if their role is confirmable or not.
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I am Impa. My role is confirmable. Also, I probably will survive if I use it, so I don't see any downside in confirming myself N1 and helping town (I know this looks bad but Moozer phrased the explanation of my role really badly).
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I expect of everyone else to state their character and say if their role is confirmable or not.
am link, confirmable
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Iz Hyrule… See, I’m literally the town itself, so I can’t be scum! 🤣

Kidding, obviously.



I’m Zelda. With a little cooperation from another player I’m confirmable. 
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it's a pretty big one. 
Are you fat shaming the king?!

I actually thought you were going to be a dragon or something when I read that.

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I'm Daruk. I'm confirmable, but I'd require help with that.
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I only survive another day if I am killed at night. So if you lynch me it "confirms" me, sure, but I will also be dead.
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So at least 6 confirmable roles so far.

This is good, I guess, but all those roles need to be confirmed by dp3.

We can afford 2 mislynches, so if scum is among the non-confirmable roles, it basically means only 3 players are left with non-confirmable role.

I know two scum players can claim that they have confirmed each other, which is what we must look out for.

Now we just need to hear from Earth about his character.