Capitalism sucks! Socialism (Government planned economy) is the best system!

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A low supply will immediately impact prices and cause companies to and consumers to redirect their resources and energy to acquiring things from different sources.
You are just repeating what I said. Low supply = nearly depleted

Coal runs low, you move to oil, wild runs low you start developing electric vehicles etc. 
This was already responded to. The only valid sources of energy we know of are oil, gas, coal and nuclear. All finite and all currently being depleted. Also, oil cannot replace coal in all areas, and coal, nuclear and gas cannot be used effectively in military.

If you haven't looked at economics I would start by Google g supply and demand
You think you know something about economy. You are not just repeating refuted points.
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if socialists understood economy they wouldnt be socialists, the fact that you still dont understand how capitalism and the market laws are natural wich means they were not created they were discovered, then you would see my point, either way tell me how, enlighten me, what is communism for you??
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You are just repeating what I said. Low supply = nearly depleted
No, you can be low without being nearly depleted. Also just Google supply and demand. You don't understand it. 

The increased prices due to low supplies , forces the market to better distribute supplies in a natural way. Not according to a government body but to people who are not genetic dead ends that live in their parents basements but to Chad millionaires
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we can literally create energy from things that live beyond earths lifespan, for christ sake from movement itself we can create energy from and somehow you think everything comes out of a rock??
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yes the market works on favor of the people is literally a system  that strives for and by democracy
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also in the end all communism does is to try to emulate capitalism, by redistributing wealth as people think it should people in power, not people in need, i think is funny how hipocritical communists are saying they help the poorest when in fact they cause more harm than good
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No, you can be low without being nearly depleted.
Low means being near to being depleted, in this case.

You think government trying to reduce resource consumption will be completely negated by market, while also thinking that market perfectly regulates that same resource consumption.

So in other words, you are just contradicting yourself and even entire history disproves you.

You also think that it is better to go from low price to higher price as resource lowers in supply, but you fail to understand that resource depletes faster when price is low, thus your theory only increases price significantly when plenty of resource is already wasted.

To put it simply, you start with low price which enables rapid depleting, and only when resource is significantly depleted, you increase price significantly.

This is like wasting money and only reducing spending once you have already spent a lot instead of being responsible and saving money from start.

I would tell you to google principle of parsimony, but after previous comments, one cannot expect much.
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When you make an actual argument, let me know. So far most of the things you said are just nonsense.
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To put it simply, you start with low price which enables rapid depleting, and only when resource is significantly depleted, you increase price significantly.
This is why I said Google the law of supply and demand because it doesn't need to be significantly reduced for prices to adjust. 

You think government trying to reduce resource consumption will be completely negated by market, while also thinking that market perfectly regulates that same resource consumption.
So the markets uses supply and demand to dictate price. That's how a free market works. If the government is divying up things based on equality than it usurps supply and demand, and so there will be excess for people who don't need it and not enough for people who need more than normal so underground markets prop up to redistribute resources. Yes that undermines the law of supply and demand to a certain extent because the government will be late to react to market shifts. 
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it doesn't need to be significantly reduced for prices to adjust
Those resources have reduced significantly, yet prices in USA failed to reduce their consumption in any significant amount.

If the government is divying up things based on equality
No one said anything about equal distribution. There are ways other than simple government distribution, like reducing current available supply by government taking over some part of resource, and through increased taxes which have worked before to reduce consumption.

underground markets prop up to redistribute resources
You claim that market is best at distributing, so if we are to trust you, then underground markets arent a bad thing or even a valid argument because you think they help distribute better.

But even underground markets are affected by current supply reduction.
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You claim that market is best at distributing, so if we are to trust you, then underground markets arent a bad thing or even a valid argument because you think they help distribute better.
This is wrong. If you have a centrally planned economy than decentralized planning is bad. If you have a decentralized economy than centralized economies interfering is bad