What is a republican?

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Sorry, I don’t smoke pot. 
Neither do I.

Many stoners are MAGA (and they should have the right to smoke weed).  When you act high, you often vote for the candidate with a lot of energy (Trump).

But address my argument if you want to debate about it instead of being an SJW about it.
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Neither do I.
Then I’m not sure what your excuse is for imagining what by all appearances is a nonsense, weed induced hypothetical. Produce actual, real life people’s views to demonstrate how my pithy comparison is completely off base. Or we can merely agree to disagree and leave it at that.

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Produce actual, real life people’s views 
I'm saying those real life people's views are easily manipulated by whatever the GOP happens to say because there is no consistent ethos.

Lets say there is a future issue of whether or not the US should fund Taiwan if they get invaded by China.  If the GOP says, "America first" (like they did with Ukraine), then the MAGA base will be against funding Taiwan against a Chinese invasion.  If the GOP says, "Taiwan is our ally" (like they did with Israel), then the MAGA base will support us funding Taiwan against Chinese invasion.

I'm America first (and anti war) no matter the conflict because I actually believe stuff.  The GOP base will follow whatever Tucker Carlson and Trump tell them to believe.

They are the real people that support the current thing.  The left merely tries to reduce unwanted pain.
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Well, I guess the ethos I have observed in the GOP as it currently stands is: “Despite its flaws currently and historically, there is much to be proud of in America.”
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I don't know...half of the GOP were happy to wave Ukraine flags when they sent all our welfare overseas....
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JFK said, “Ich bin ein Berliner.” I don’t see those sorts of things as a renunciation of loyalty to the US.
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So he was a German plant? Now it all makes sense...
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A number of US citizens emigrated to Canada to help England in the Battle of Britain. They were known as the Eagle Squadron.
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Tories!
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No hard feelings after almost 200 years, I guess…
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lol, no I get it. People in power put on all sorts of masks. It's just part of the theatre.
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Well, I guess the ethos I have observed in the GOP as it currently stands is: “Despite its flaws currently and historically, there is much to be proud of in America.”
Like what?  Is it:

  1. America's Pro Choice Majority
  2. America's President
  3. America's pro legal weed majority
  4. America's leftist majority

Because conservatives aren't proud of these aspect of America.  Then they say:

Loving the country is different than loving the government
If they really believed this, then why don't they love California?  Or NY?  Or Chicago?  It's because they don't like the government there.  If Florida was ran by a leftist, then do you think conservatives would like Florida?  No.  They like Florida because of the GOP guy that is the governor.

Loving/hating the country = Loving/hating the government in a political context.  In a generic electoral college matchup based on the elections from 2000 to 2020, the democrat wins 292 electoral votes.  Loving America = Loving Democrat politicians, as it is who America is most likely to elect.
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Like what?
Exactly. Non Republicans have a hard time coming up with examples of things to be proud of.

Edit: I even made a reference to this pride in America in post 4. You seem very closed off to the answers I provide to your questions.
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What's so good about America?
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Non Republicans have a hard time coming up with examples of things to be proud of.
Here are some things a democrat would be proud of America for:

  1. America's Pro Choice Majority
  2. America's President
  3. America's pro legal weed majority
  4. America's leftist majority
  5. America's racial diversity
  6. America's anti ICE majority
  7. America's pro LGBT majority

Democrats have their things that they are proud of America for.

You seem very closed off to the answers I provide to your questions.
I wouldn't say closed off; I would say more that if that's your definition, then it's not a good one.  Otherwise someone can like Mount Rushmore and be left on every other issue and you would still say that they are a republican.
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Democrats have their things that they are proud of America for.
Sure, it’s just that the current trend is for Democrats to emphasize areas of shame as opposed to pride. People on the left tend to like America most for how they are able to change it.

I wouldn't say closed off; I would say more that if that's your definition, then it's not a good one.
Hmm… well, your apparent contradiction from one sentence to the next not withstanding, I never claimed it is a definition. You are the only individual I have seen attempting to shoehorn political party memberships into mathematically precise boxes— any exception (whether real or, more likely in your case, imagined) disproves the claim! It’s bizarre. Anyway, your thread title is “What is a Republican?” not “Define a Republican.” So, I gave a generalization of how a typical, contemporary Republican differs from a typical, contemporary Democrat. I have more, too, when you are ready.
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Sure, it’s just that the current trend is for Democrats to emphasize areas of shame as opposed to pride. People on the left tend to like America most for how they are able to change it.
Changing America is not exclusively a left wing thing.

Anyway, your thread title is “What is a Republican?” not “Define a Republican.”
These are synonyms.  If I ask you to what is a woman (to you, it’s chromosomes), then it would be the same thing as asking for a definition of a woman.

I have more, too, when you are ready.
You can state them if you want.
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Changing America is not exclusively a left wing thing.
I didn’t say it was. You need to stop translating everything I say into binary absolutes.

These are synonyms.  If I ask you to what is a woman (to you, it’s chromosomes), then it would be the same thing as asking for a definition of a woman.
Wow— we cannot even agree on this! If you wish only to distill political party membership to precise, inviolable definitions, then I’m out. If you are willing to be more reasonable and more intellectually curious, then I am still in.
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I made this thread because I am courious as to what the GOP consistently stands for.  You are acting like what the left does when they can’t define what a woman consistently is.

The GOP should split up into multiple parties if they have multiple ethoses.  Maybe do rank choice voting so you don’t have to worry about democrats winning by a plurality.

But I want parties to be ideologically consistent.
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I am courious as to what the GOP consistently stands for.
Sorry, but you do not show curiosity about this subject at all. With that, I have your decision. I will leave you with this dandy article:

“What Is Intellectual Curiosity? Definition and Importance”