3RU, go to 1:00 and attempt to grasp that, what there saying is Gravity is ' emergent ' --as does Eric Verlinde that Ive posted and referenced links to many times--- and she uses H2O > water as analogous to Gravity.
They are trying to have their resultant conclusions in two differrent ways, ergo, their logic, that, is semi-illogical, lacks common sense critical thinking, as presented with their own comments.
So basically this, logic they state in vid, yet dont seem to grasp/jive with what there saying, i.e. if water exists then that means Gravity exists, irrespective of whether it is emergent or not. Understand 3RU?
My dispute with them and Eric Verlinde is that occupied space Gravity and Dark Energy are primary, tho, Ive made clear in post #16 in this thread, or others around here, that, within my speculative 18 nodal event { in 2d lattice } Quantum Space-time Torus { 3D } exists the 14 nodal events { 2D lattice pattern } graviton-darkEon, that,
has the following:
Five nodal events of non-quantized, occupied space Gravity , ....1...2p....5p..7p...11p....1p..... as outer surface events
internal, nucleated body of physical reality { observed time/quantised } set of Five nodal events, 0....3p....6...9...12.... --associated with sine-wave pattern--- and
Inner surface set non-quantized, occupied space Dark Energy set of Four nodal events .....2p.....4.....8....10.....
So Gravity and physical reality both have five nodal events, and Dark Energy only has four. We can derive a logical, common sense critical thinking from this 5 >< 5 ---> 4 ratio. Gravity and physical reality more primary than Dark Energy { cosmological constant- See Einstein's biggest blunder, not a blunder }
Here is the 2-D lattice { field } of space and time and the first 13 nodes define the gravtion-darkEon, along with their 91 lines-of-relationship
....1...............5p...........7p..............11p......13p......................17p.......Gr
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0.............................6.............................12.....................................18...Phy R
.............3p...........................9......................................15.....................Phy R
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........2p......4.....................8.....10.........................14.........16...................Dark E
The not shown geodesics --warped Gravitational and Dark Energy--- is as follows:
1 >>> 2p and this is trajectory, within a wholistic pulse of non-isolate-able graviton-darkEon and--- that, has polyhedral { octahedron } aspects of a 3D tube with an internal body { observed time } aka truncated, di-pyramid { octahedron }, i.e. the minimal set to have a 3D tube as,
3 surface nodal events { 0..1..2p } on one end,
5 nodal events internal to the outer surface tube{ octahedron } ...this is nucleated body of the surface tube...
3 surface nodal events {10....11p....13p } on the other end
So let us again attempt logical, common sense critical thinking to these resultant ratios. 3 outer and 3 inner total 6 compared to the internal { nucleated body } set of 5 nodal events. This resultant of 6:5 ratio suggests to me, that, Gravity and Dark Energy are more primary, however, elsewhere Ive disscussed with there can ever exist a ultra-brief Meta-space time ---ex big bang-- where for the ultra-brief moment { no observed time or motion }, the occupied space physical reality does not exist.
I.e. on the transition of between Gravity > Dark Energy geodesic that, of course has a time, just not a quantize-able observed time, as is the case of quantize-able physical reality.
And I say this again, as I have many in many posts, Gravity and Dark Energy are best catagorised as Meta-physical. Do you, 3Ru, understand this logical, common sense critical thinking conclusion, as Ive derived from the above 2D lattice pattern?
Non-quantized Gravity and Dark Energy are beyond/Meta phyiscal reality because they exist on the surface of graviton-darkEon and ergo on the surface of the Quantum Space-time Torus.
Sidewalker and most others are so stuck in their pre-conditioned education about space and time, they, cannot free their thought pathways to consider my logical, common sense critical thinking pathways of thought.
Take note of Einsteins quote.... my education has been one of my biggest impediments to my learning '....
My ego tells me, that, based on 2D, lattice pattern presented, my conclusions are logical, common sense critical thinking. None have ever --if only rarely--- addressed my presentation as such.
Far easier to just make dismmisive comments based on their pre-conditioned education and not address my givens, as presented ergo dismiss ebucs presentation completely along with ebucs conclusions with out fair judgement, or discourse to address those specifics.
Certainly we do not live in the not the days of free thought to be considered by many of these around here. Too philosophically logical for them. Logic goes out the window. Space { as Gravity and Dark Energy } is occupied and it gets bent/warped by occupied space matter { has Gravity and Dark Energy inherent to its existence as Quantum Space-time torus.
Oops more speculative logic, as your given link to others who speculated, as does Eric Verlinde.