Why do men like lesbian sex?

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I never got what you mean by "overthinking" but I trully believe transgenderism is due to a genetic flaw (a mutation) as well as other conditions like down Syndrome, dwarfism, and so on. 

I guess this flaw in the reproduction occurs when there is an imbalance in people's bodies like malnutrition, sleep deprivation, substance abuse, etc. I mean, in normal circunstances a newborn shouldn't have problems, and if there is some the birth should be aborted inmediately, like in Iceland. 

That's why I think the humanity must put more efforts in research that promotes genetic improvement. Everyone has the right to have a good life quality.
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I never got what you mean by "overthinking" but I trully believe transgenderism is due to a genetic flaw (a mutation) as well as other conditions like down Syndrome, dwarfism, and so on. 
Genetic flaws don't have case numbers that look like pandemics.

Genetic flaws are detectable in ancestry and thus predictable in children.

If it is a disease it is a social one.
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Thinking:

So, humans have the evolved ability to store, modify and utilise information.


Overthinking:

Coming up with ideas that seemingly have no practical value.


Transgenderism:

May or may not be a socio-psychological trend based on overthink.


Maybe overthink can influence genetic modification.

Maybe transgenderism is influenced by environmental contamination.

Maybe environmental contamination is an inevitable phase of the evolutionary process.

Maybe everything that occurs is an inevitable part of the evolutionary process.

Therefore ideas that seemingly have no practical value, might be an essential phase of a preordained process.


Or,

Maybe everything is meaningless.


Fact is, there's a lot we don't know.
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Genetic flaws don't have case numbers that look like pandemics.

Genetic flaws are detectable in ancestry and thus predictable in children.

If it is a disease it is a social one.
Transgederism, as well as the other conditions I mentioned, have a constant case numbers, which is low by the way.

It's not a disease either. Neither homosexuality. Let's say it's a manufacturing defect. :)
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What you're saying is basically that "idleness is the mother of all evil". Well, I couldn't agree more.

But I don't see the relation with transgenderism. Do you think children overthink and all of a sudden wants to change their gender?

Children play, dream, bother all the time, but they don't overthint except those who were born psycopaths.

I don't know, Victor. It's very complicated. Anyway, being either transgender or homosexual shouldn't be an issue. Isn't it?
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Transgederism, as well as the other conditions I mentioned, have a constant case numbers, which is low by the way.
That is not true:







Let's say it's a manufacturing defect. :)
Defect or not, it is too soon to rule out wide categories of causes.
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What I'm suggesting is that in the main, transgenderism is a socio-psychological trend inspired by overthinking.

Children would not dream of transgenderism if they were not inspired to do so.

And I'm not certain if psychopathy cannot also inspired by overthink.

Which isn't to suggest that a very small percentage of a population do not inherit physiological aberrations.



I'm not sure where I said that "idleness is the mother of all evil".

Overthinking could inspire both idleness and industry.

And evil is a concept relative to the concept of goodness.
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Obviously!! People with gender disphoria have more access to sex reasignment procedures and the society has developed more tolerance towards them. These kind of people have always existed, the only difference is that they are not afraid of showing up as they are.

It's like homosexuals, they are not afraid anymore of going out of the closet, so today we're seeing the real numbers of them in statistics, which is around 5% if I remember correctly.
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Which isn't to suggest that a very small percentage of a population do not inherit physiological aberrations.
That sounds like the bible, Victor.

Well, you're a boomer after all so I get how you feel. Lol.
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Obviously!! People with gender disphoria have more access to sex reasignment procedures and the society has developed more tolerance towards them. These kind of people have always existed, the only difference is that they are not afraid of showing up as they are.
That is a theory to explain some of the data, but it does not make the data support your assertion of constant numbers.


It's like homosexuals, they are not afraid anymore of going out of the closet, so today we're seeing the real numbers of them in statistics, which is around 5% if I remember correctly.
Try 20%


Under your theory no matter how high the number goes the only way to explain it is claiming that is the number that were closeted before.

Your theory is also incapable of explaining why people who once identified as LGBT as teens cease doing so as full adults. It still fails independently for the reason that if propensity towards any of these things was significantly genetic then predictions could occur and there should be distinct rates in different gene pools.

A social contagion theory on the other hand can explain these charts and facts easily.

In other words, being LGBT is cool right now (so long as you don't also express liberal or conservative politics or imply that you aren't oppressed or are oppressed in a way not-sanctioned by the global left-tribe). Down syndrome is not.

It's a better argument to say that those who responded to anonymous polling while it was persecuted and shunned were the ones with a genuine condition, only those in true fear rather than motivated by unearned praise could be trusted not be dishonest or delusional.

I would draw a parallel to a persecuted religion. For instance when being christian could get you executed, there were only true believers at mass because only true belief could motivate that admission. On the other hand when Christianity is the state religion and infidels are shunned then there is hardly anyone who doesn't profess to be a christian regardless of whether they have privately prayed once in their life or give a shit about the teachings of Jesus.
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A social contagion theory on the other hand can explain these charts and facts easily.
This theory could be useful to take down the Lgtb movement as federal policy because if proven right it could be dangerous for our youth. You're basically saying homosexuality could turn into a pandemia.

By the way, you're not taking into consideration that according to some studies people are not totally heterosexuals or homosexuals but a mix of them. Some are more hetero than homo, and others more homo than hetero. I guess bisexuals are half homo half hetero. In my case, for example, I might be 99.99% hetero and 0.01% homo. :) 

That might be happening to some young people that think they have a specific sexual orientation but at the end they find out they did it just out of curiousity. 

I still think these mental conditions are set up at dna level. One can have this dna setup but not necessarily manifest it. It also depends on our environment if these dna configuration is activated.
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A social contagion theory on the other hand can explain these charts and facts easily.
This theory could be useful to take down the Lgtb movement as federal policy because if proven right it could be dangerous for our youth. You're basically saying homosexuality could turn into a pandemia.
It doesn't get much more dangerous than when you start mutilating yourself during your time in the cult. Still, I am not claiming that sexual orientation is forming due to propaganda, I'm saying delusions (self-lies) and dishonesty (other-lies) are causing huge numbers of kids to claim to be LGBT.

I am simultaneously not ruling out the theory that a certain unknown nurture at young ages (5-12) is the substantial cause of sexual orientation. What is clear after long careful study is that none of the well understood biological or psychological mechanisms explain sexual deviancy and that includes simple inheritable traits.

Even if the true ratio of homosexuals hasn't changed, that doesn't mean it is genetic. I was merely pointing out that your theory of genetic (determinism) but everyone was in the closet can only respond to a number like "19% LGBT" with "I guess that's how many were in the closet throughout history".

If you accept that identifying as LGBT doesn't necessarily correlate with actual sexual orientation then you don't have any reliable numbers of rates before or after public acceptance.


By the way, you're not taking into consideration that according to some studies people are not totally heterosexuals or homosexuals but a mix of them.
Of course, nothing else could be expected given how complicated sexual attraction is. There are no hard and fast rules except those people make for themselves.


I guess bisexuals are half homo half hetero.
Or enough of either to pursue porn and relationships in that field.


That might be happening to some young people that think they have a specific sexual orientation but at the end they find out they did it just out of curiousity. 
And every new generation is more curious than the last? That's not genetic.


I still think these mental conditions are set up at dna level. One can have this dna setup but not necessarily manifest it.
When we say something is "genetic" that means it will manifest if a gene is present. Unless you're saying that there are genes which make you immune to sexual deviancy and when you don't have the gene it may or may not appear.

Well then there is still a reason that the deviancy does or does not appear even if they are unknown.

There is a fair argument that obesity and alcoholism have genes that pretty much make you immune, but to say they are genetic and you are born fat or alcoholic is incorrect and it is very likely that culture and upbringing strongly predict such conditions regardless.