Homosexuality is bad, but this is acceptable:
I think both should be legal, but it is way more degenerate to have sex with animals than it is to have homosexual sex with the same species.
Islamic scholar quote
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@TheUnderdog
“A woman for children, a man for love, and a goat for sheer ecstasy”
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@cristo71
Not even porn hub has videos of men having sex with goats.
When Porn Hub won't have your kink on there, you know it's fucked up.
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@TheUnderdog
Dare I ask why?it is way more degenerate to have sex with animals than it is to have homosexual sex with the same species.
To further emphasize Islam’s categorical opposition to such an evil action, the animal with which this sin has been committed is to be slaughtered (the meat of the animal can then be given to eat). [Ibn ‘Abidin, Radd al-Muhtar]
Additionally, under Islamic governance, the person is to be penalized (t’azir) as the caliph sees fit within his discretion. [Ibid.]
This is because if the animal remains alive, it will continue to remind people of such an act, and that act may take roots in their minds and thus lead to it being committed again. Slaughtering the animal is a means to close the door to this crime spreading in society.
Islamic scholars can always be counted to give your head a good itch.
"I have sinned greatly, therefore I will now kill the supposedly innocent animal because he/she is just too sexy to live"
I guess it actually goes along with the burka. Basically it's everyone and everything's fault but the Muslim man. They made him do it.
I wonder if this means the homosexual tossing is actually kind of a compliment. "You filthy pervert, if you were allowed to live another minute I could not resist you! *shoves him off the cliff*"
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@ADreamOfLiberty
You are more likely to get STDs from but sex with a dog than butt sex with a dude.
It should be legal to do beastiality, but it is highly degenerate behavior and you should be made fun of if you have sex with non human animals.
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@TheUnderdog
You are more likely to get STDs from but sex with a dog than butt sex with a dude.
So "degeneracy" is just shorthand for "medically inadvisable"?
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@ADreamOfLiberty
So "degeneracy" is just shorthand for "medically inadvisable"?
Medically inadvisable and just extremely gross to even think about. Like, watching 2 men have gay sex; I think it’s gross, but it’s nowhere near a man having but sex with a sheep or goat.
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@TheUnderdog
So "degeneracy" is just shorthand for "medically inadvisable"?Medically inadvisable and just extremely gross to even think about.
You have made yourself famous on this site for your obtuse attempt to simplify everything to dichotomies. Surely you can explain what you mean by "degenerate":
Is it anything that is gross (to you) or is it anything that is medically inadvisable?
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@ADreamOfLiberty
Is it anything that is gross (to you) or is it medically inadvisable (degenerate)?
And, not or. I think both are required. But other than that, I think you are correct.
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@TheUnderdog
So if it grosses you out but is medically safe then it is not degenerate?Is it anything that is gross (to you) or is it medically inadvisable (degenerate)?And, not or. I think both are required. But other than that, I think you are correct.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
Dog fuckers? In my society?
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@ADreamOfLiberty
So if it grosses you out but is medically safe then it is not degenerate?
Correct. Example: Eating Brussel Sprouts.
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@TheUnderdog
So if it grosses you out but is medically safe then it is not degenerate?Correct. Example: Eating Brussel Sprouts.
Then butt sex with a dog or a man can be rendered non-degenerate (generate?) by a medical screening.
Isn't it nice when things have simple solutions?
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@TheUnderdog
I consider Islam to be a sort of criticism of Judaism and Christianity by cultural appropriation. So, yeah. None of this is surprising. People are strange.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
Then butt sex with a dog or a man can be rendered non-degenerate (generate?) by a medical screening.
If no STDs were presented, then I could see that. I would assume virtually every time someone has had sex with an animal, an STI was created. STIs just didn't pop out of nowhere.
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@TheUnderdog
underdog ?
Nope.
That be inthedog.
Buttttt um yeah .
I aint clicking on that.
If thats a video of somone fuck8ng a dog , wich it sounds like it is.
Don't go putting up links like that , CUNT.
Jusy Don't.
Someone named ( underdog ) anddddd
putting up picks of people fucking dogs.
Thats like .
Well .
Its a red flag .
Can you pop ya mom on the computer for a sec please pal ?
Underdog.
Please, ill be respectful,
UNDERDOG?
Just a quick chat with ya mom please mate.
Ill be super quick dogg.m
Please.
Pop her on.
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@RaymondSheen
A parody would be the FSM. It also means virtually nobody would take it seriously.
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@TheUnderdog
Dog?
Put ya mom on the computer for a minute please.
Im not gonna stop asking you.
Put ya mom on the computer for a minute please.
Im not gonna stop asking you.
Or Any adult near you please.,
Nowwwwwwww.
Ill wait.
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@Deb-8-a-bull
If thats a video of somone fuck8ng a dog , wich it sounds like it is.
It's not. It's an image of something stupid that was said by an Islamic televangelist that was endorsing and encouraging bestiality.
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@TheUnderdog
Ok sorry pal.
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@Deb-8-a-bull
No worries.
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@TheUnderdog
A parody would be the FSM. It also means virtually nobody would take it seriously.
Not sure what you mean is a parody here. You're comparing my take on Islam to the FSM? I've kind of made similar comparisons in the past. I think most religion is a sort of parody like the FSM is. Shintoism, for example. If not from the origins of the religion, then certainly a parody eventually. Christianity and Judaism are parodies of their original teachings and Islam originated as a protestation of that and the FSM - oh, now I see what you were saying. Duh! Sorry, I'm a bit slow.
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@TheUnderdog
In substance you know nothing more about biology than the prophet (may he be remembered as peaceful even though he was a warlord).Then butt sex with a dog or a man can be rendered non-degenerate (generate?) by a medical screening.If no STDs were presented, then I could see that. I would assume virtually every time someone has had sex with an animal, an STI was created. STIs just didn't pop out of nowhere.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
How do you know? Who got the 1st case of HIV? And who did they have sex with to get that case?
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@TheUnderdog
There are two theories where the first HIV case came from. 1. From a hunter injury causing infection and 2. Contamination of polio vaccines. It's about the timing. Hunters had been hunting for thousands of years. Why wouldn't they have been contaminated much earlier? The polio vaccines had about 20 years. It was the vaccines.
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@TheUnderdog
How do you know?
That you're ignorant of basic biology?
You said "I would assume virtually every time someone has had sex with an animal, an STI was created."
Which indicates that you don't understand the origin of species. In two sentences: Random mutations in inheritable traits may cause functional changes that increase or decrease the likelihood of further inheritance, most notably through the number of offspring. This causes a nonrandom bias in the gene frequency allowing it to change over time to increase functionality (of reproduction).
If you had known that you would know that the likelihood of "creating an STI" is a subcategory of "creating a new species (or variant of a species)" which would be proportional to the mutation rate of the species times its current population.
Whether it was a successful new species is an entirely different question.
This applies to bacteria and to viruses.
Therefore it is correct to say: Behavior doesn't create disease, it spreads diseases which are constantly appearing.
Who got the 1st case of HIV?
Impossible to know, evidence indicates it was a chimpanzee in prehistory.
And who did they have sex with to get that case?
No one, it was a random mutation. If they got it from someone else, then they weren't the 1st case. <- basic logic
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@ADreamOfLiberty
Impossible to know, evidence indicates it was a chimpanzee in prehistory.
The H in HIV stands for Human. You're thinking S for Simian?
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@RaymondSheen
Impossible to know, evidence indicates it was a chimpanzee in prehistory.The H in HIV stands for Human. You're thinking S for Simian?
That's nomenclature. The virus infects both species. It is in general much more likely for a virus to be effective against closely related targets than distantly related targets.
For example it would be very unusual (and dangerous) if the same virus could infect ants and humans. Since we can't get rid of ants we would be unable to eradicate such a virus by any known means.
This is also how the flu variants keep reappearing, birds have them and even if we quarantine our sick the birds do not.
This shines a light on two rather important points:
1.) Most persistent diseases are or were zoonoses. Bacteria and viruses which can adapt to different species are... adaptable, and adaptable is bad for disease control.
2.) Most zoonoses and the dangerous diseases in general aren't STIs, STIs by definition are just about as difficult to transmit as a disease can be. No STI is a pandemic and the solution to quarantine STIs is simple and straightforward, failure to do so is a testament only to the lack of self-discipline in the society.