Mahabharata Mafia DP1

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Welcome to Mahabharata Mafia! This is a Role Madness game meaning there are NO VANILLAS. Instead of giving mafia fake roles/claims outright, I changed it up a little. Mafia can ask if any two characters are in the game or not, and I will truthfully answer. Mafia can also ask if any two roles are in the game, and I will truthfully answer. This is so scum are incentivized to do research, but at the same time have the opportunity to not be burned with a thematic split since this game does have a thematic divide distinguishing the factions. Please play towards your wincon at all times and be active!

Just some quick rules:

1) No editing or deleting posts of any kinds
2) No copy/pasting your role PM (please paraphrase)
3) No cryptography of any kind
4) No communication outside of the mafia game
5) No liking/upvoting posts after you die

I reserve the right to add any other rules that are commonplace that I may have forgotten to list.

If you have any questions, please PM me directly. Also, PM me if you would like a vote count at any point in time, though I will try to be proactive in posting counts. All DPs will be 72 hours and NPs 24 hours unless the NP ends with everyone submitting actions earlier. 



“Dhṛitarāśhtra uvācha
dharma-kṣhetre kuru-kṣhetre samavetā yuyutsavaḥ
māmakāḥ pāṇḍavāśhchaiva kimakurvata sañjaya”

— The Bhagavad Gita: Chapter 1 Verse 1


Remaining Players:

1. Barney
2. Lunatic
3. Austin
4. Whiteflame
5. Moozer
6. JoeBob
7. Earth
8. Vader
9. Savant


With 9 players alive, it takes t votes to lynch. This DP will end Wednesday May 22nd at 4:00 PM CST. Let the was begin.


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DP is up

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DP is up
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Mahabharata looks like a Hindu thing. I wonder what inspired the theme.
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Well technically third, if you count Pie.
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How often has town lynched scum on D1? We didn't manage it in either of the games I've played.
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I can tell this game is going to be crazy.
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I know next to nothing about the theme on this one - Indian texts are definitely not my forte - but I’ll be doing some reading during this game to try and address that deficit so I can at least be some help with theme analysis.

Also, my wife has a performance in less than an hour, so I won’t be on for a good portion of the evening.
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Doesn’t happen very often from my experience.
It’s rare. I honestly can’t remember the last time it happened.
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I see now harm in just getting right to business, so if I can get at least 2 other people to claim with me, I’ll hard-claim.
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Here. And totally definitely vanilla...

You may be wondering how this is possible when the mod says "NO VANILLAS" but notice the S at the end, no vanillas plural, not singular. 

😁
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Hi everyone, checking in. Don't expect activity from me for a day or two.
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Ok 
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Oh my character claim is Shikhandi.

Not that I think character claims are likely going to lead to any counter claims with this theme.
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Claiming characters this early seems like a bad idea anyway, since all it does is help scum narrow down what they can claim and get away with.
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How often has town lynched scum on D1? We didn't manage it in either of the games I've played.


Here? Probably rarely these days. It used to happen more frequently though
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@Barney
Here. And totally definitely vanilla...

You may be wondering how this is possible when the mod says "NO VANILLAS" but notice the S at the end, no vanillas plural, not singular. 

Took me a second to realize you were joking 🙃 
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Oh my character claim is Shikhandi.

Not that I think character claims are likely going to lead to any counter claims with this theme.
Any particular reason you chose to character claim this early?
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@Savant

Claiming characters this early seems like a bad idea anyway, since all it does is help scum narrow down what they can claim and get away with.

I think it all depends on who your character is. If it's someone that you don't really care about the Mafia knowing, its smart to put it out there, people should also get a bit of a pass early on if their role is really important.
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Any particular reason you chose to character claim this early?
Zero meaningful activity, so a slight nudge to encourage the ball to get the ball rolling. Now we already have someone (me) being asked their motivation for an action.

Plus, some inevitable but undeserved town cred.
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Zero meaningful activity, so a slight nudge to encourage the ball to get the ball rolling. Now we already have someone (me) being asked their motivation for an action.

Plus, some inevitable but undeserved town cred.
Point taken. From everything I'm reading into The Mahabharata, there are plenty of characters in the text to draw from, so I suspect scum won't have trouble figuring out fake claims. 

Also, surprised no one has mentioned it so far, but this part of the setup from Pie:

Mafia can ask if any two characters are in the game or not, and I will truthfully answer. Mafia can also ask if any two roles are in the game, and I will truthfully answer.
is also going to make it easier for scum to fake claim.
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I did not notice that. Good catch...

Everyone else, do not make character claims for awhile!
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It's worth working with whatever information we're provided by Pie to whatever degree we're able, even if it only gives us hints on plausible characters and theme splits. He gave a verse from the Bhagavad Gita, which mainly features three characters by name: King Dhritarashtra, Sanjay and Pandu (though he's only asked after). In particular, the king seems to be a major character in the Mahabharata, so I wouldn't be surprised if he's in this game. Doesn't indicate a plausible theme split since the verse just covers the king's desire to know what is going on on the battlefield of Kurukshetra (it's going to be fun keeping up with misspellings of all these names). Maybe it is just as straightforward as one side vs. another on a given battlefield, and given that other major characters like Krishna and Yudhishthira were on the other side, there might be something to that.

Just some thoughts for now, don't want to go too far down this rabbit hole based on a single quote.
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Alright, this lack of activity is starting to get a bit absurd given that we’re already over 24 hours into this DP. 

VTL Vader

You’re the only one who hasn’t posted so far. Time to get involved.
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Does Vader tend to be inactive when he is town? I checked the last game when he was scum, and he took a good while to post then too. But I've only played with him twice, so I'm not sure how much that matters.
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My experience is that it’s not indicative of affiliation for him. That being said, being inactive is a good way to fly under the radar, so regardless of affiliation, his activity matters.
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No offense, but I’m noticing the game moves a lot slower without pie aggressively hounding everyone. Just a funny observation.
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Supa probably doesn’t even know the game is up yet. Usually he posts as soon as he knows about it.
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Does Vader tend to be inactive when he is town? I checked the last game when he was scum, and he took a good while to post then too. But I've only played with him twice, so I'm not sure how much that matters.
Vader/Supa is in college these days. So analysis of old games of his will be less insightful.