Today a porn star is weaponized against a former U.S. President

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We have a check and a Stormy DD signature. 
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Too bad it wasn't a felony.
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They are probably thinking that hiding a body won't stop a murder investigation.
Keep doubling down. It’s not a murder investigation without a body.

It’s a missing person investigation. Your Wiki page citation doesn’t say anything about a murder investigation.

And when a missing person investigation lead to a murder conviction, the convictions were often overturned and found to be defective.

But you keep doubling down on nonsense like a typical MAGA MORON 

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She said a lot of weird conflicting things, including signing a document that said she never knew Trump.
Another lie. Another distortion by the MAGA MORONS. 

Here’s a review of the facts by the Associated Press, a much better source than an unemployed lonely, substitute teacher 

CLAIM: A newly released document shows porn actor Stormy Daniels admitting she never had an affair with former President Donald Trump.

AP’S ASSESSMENT: Missing context. The signed statement with the denial was publicly released on Jan. 30, 2018. Not long after, Daniels recanted the statement and said that an affair had occurred. She said her denials were due to a non-disclosure agreement and that she signed the statement because parties involved “made it sound like I had no choice.”

THE FACTS: A grand jury has been weighing whether to indict Trump in a hush money case investigated by Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg’s office. The case has homed in on a $130,000 payment made to Daniels ahead of the 2016 election.

Amid those proceedings, Trump allies, AKA MAGA MORONS, and others on social media are attempting to cast the old statement denying the affair as new information.

TURNED OUT TRUMP, USING A PSEUDONYM, NEVER SIGNED THE NDA

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Didn't Stormy say that Trump was one of the dumbest johns she ever had?
Yes.

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  1. Witness Testimony: If there are credible witnesses who claim that a murder took place, even in the absence of a body, this can lead to an investigation.
  2. Forensic Evidence: Discovery of significant amounts of a person's blood, signs of a violent struggle, or forensic evidence that suggests a lethal outcome can also prompt a murder investigation regardless of a missing body.
  3. Confession: If someone confesses to murder or aiding and abetting a murder, this will almost certainly trigger an investigation, whether a body is missing or not.
  4. Video or Audio Evidence: Recordings that indicate a murder has occurred can initiate an investigation without the need to investigate a missing body.
These investigations are, often termed "no body" murder cases. Convicting someone without the victim's body can be difficult because it's harder to prove that a death occurred and that it was unlawful. However, many successful prosecutions in such cases have occurred, relying heavily on DNA evidence, forensic advances, and comprehensive investigative work.

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I don't get it, who did Trump murder?
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Democrats cannot find the body, so they cannot start a murder investigation.
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MAGA MORONS see Trump breaking the law over and over, but that is fine with them. The important thing is to own the libs!

The biggest MAGA MORONS are the ones who call themselves Libertarians 
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Left-tribals are not worth owning, even if given away for free. The maintenance and liability are just too expensive.
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Wouldn’t matter. If Trump murdered someone the MAGA MORONS would say everyone does it, why are you picking on our leader?
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see, Trump literally got away with murder by simply erasing the body.
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So no work again today? So sad. How do you eat? Do you get help from the government? Can an unmarried white guy with no children qualify for SNAP?
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Left-tribe tears are high calorie, but low nutrition, so I have to eat a bit of vitamin rich food as well.
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Ya, that doesn’t answer the question. How to you survive? How do you buy food as an seldom employed substitute teacher?
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So you live off the taxpayers, that’s what I thought. Kind of ironic you are a MAGA MORON. Then again, welfare for white people is fine. It’s only objectionable when it goes to those undeserving different people.
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Well whatever it takes for you to survive. First you relied on your mother for the first 40 years or so, now it’s the federal government and the people who can earn.
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Democrats cannot find the body, so they cannot start a murder investigation.
IWRA's stubbornness on this analogy is telling, but it's really bugging me that no one is acknowledging something pretty fundamental:

Mail fraud doesn't leave bodies. You murder someone, there is a body; then you have to work to cover the body up.

They don't have to do any work to cover up mail fraud, the mail is untraceable.

The process that would be required to make remote voting democratic is a process that would cause fraud to leave "bodies", aka evidence, aka auditability.
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That's the whole point. People are trying to stop investigations despite all the ancillary evidence that shows fraud happened.
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Yes, they beg the question under the false premise that they already know fraud didn't happen because they haven't been buried under a mountain absolute proof already.

Again, it's not analogous to murder because it doesn't leave dead bodies (evidence that must be actively hidden); but if it were forced into that shape it would be like they are refusing to investigate missing persons reports because they already know the person is fine because they can't have been murdered because there is no body.
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It is analogous to murder convictions where a body can never, or wasn't ever found.

If there are thousands of such convictions, it's entirely plausible the courts could similarly convict someone of voter fraud.
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It is analogous to murder convictions where a body can never, or wasn't ever found.

If there are thousands of such convictions, it's entirely plausible the courts could similarly convict someone of voter fraud.
but how many murders are punished vs how many voter fraudsters?

Even if they were looking it's much easier to get away with voter fraud because there is no body to hide. Basically it's just confession, now that could be from bragging to friends or on a text app that can be used as evidence; but an intelligent careful fraudster really has nothing to fear.

Murdering someone and disposing of the body is much much more complicated so we can expect that the number of missing persons that were actually murdered but we have no proof or conviction is of limited scope.

Yes you could convict someone of voter fraud with circumstantial evidence, but there isn't much of that either.


I'm sure if you look at those convictions without a body, there was evidence of unique motivation, unique opportunity, and steps to hide the body.

With voter fraud, pretty much anyone who knows how the system works and who has a computer has the opportunity. There are millions of TDS who have the motivation. There is little to no evidence that needs to be hidden.

Therefore we can expect that even if there was honest investigation, the number of convicted cases of fraud would be a tiny proportion of the actual amount of fraud.
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That's the whole point. People are trying to stop investigations despite all the ancillary evidence that shows fraud happened.
There’s no ancillary evidence. Just MAGA MORON conspiracy theories and racism. As you know, most of the cheating happened in the cities where all the blacks live.

Philadelphia 
Atlanta
Detroit

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I don't get it, who did Trump murder?

The FBI is investigating.
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As you know, most of the cheating happened in the cities where all the blacks live.
Democrats are experts at speaking for blacks who weren't consulted, see the 2/3 clause.


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Also see crime bills where  either they get punished too hard or not enough based on the color of skin. So much for "rule of law"
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Also see crime bills where  either they get punished too hard or not enough based on the color of skin. So much for "rule of law"
Well apparently that is fine. It's called "discretion".

That's what I'm told anyway.
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Also see voter ID laws where far more Blacks proportionally support voter ID than Whites do, but the Whites get to correct their thinking for them.
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Democrats are experts at speaking for blacks who weren't consulted, see the 2/3 clause.
It was the 3/5ths clause genius. What a great American. You really know the Constitution. Typical MAGA MORON. A newly naturalized citizen knows more American history than the MM.