MAFIA WINS
I was very disappointed in the town this game. It was really frustrating to watch as a mod. Mafia definitely had all the tools they needed to succeed, and they were effective in using them, so huge credit from them. Even after the first two day phases, town had a solid shot of winning the game, which I will explain in a little bit.
First, I would like to say that scum MVP is definitely Austin. He was clearly townread by practically everyone throughout the DPs. My only recollection of him being suspected was by Lunatic in DP1 for behavior. Other than that it was a pure town read in DP2 by everyone and a minor scum read via POE in DP3. He was great at analyzing the game and making sure that scum had as much information as possible. I think Wylted or someone rightfully mentioned that Austin was phishing for information quite early on. The research into the characters and theme was also great in the scum PM for Austin. Barney did a great job of compiling the information and providing his experience to create the most effective night action plan with Austin’s critical thinking and prioritization. Huge props to them.
I do not think there was a town MVP this game. Best Korea ironically made the right decision in investigating Wylted cause scum were going to visit him anyways. He could have used the 1x Tracker from Whiteflame in NP3, which is why I was saddened when town just moved to lynch DP3. VTNL is the best option, period. Even if Vader was going to be lynched the next day, more information always benefits town. It was surprising Whiteflame did not even think about this, which leads me to believe it was clearly a tunnel on Vader. Vader did not play optimally by immediately claiming 1x Cop. Even scum thought Vader was a full blown cop, which is why they tried to Actress him NP2. I was astonished that Vader was scum read even after claiming 1x Cop. You would have to assume that scum are ballsy or received a fake claim of a 1x Cop. If they did receive the fake claim of 1x Cop, why would they claim that instead of a full Cop, especially that early on. It doesn’t make sense at all. You would also have to assume that I am bastard and would give Cop as a fake claim. Not only that, you would have to assume that I gave Rachel and a character justification to scum as well.
That is just one part of the puzzle. I was also disappointed that Town did not lynch Greyparrot DP1. He claimed third party and would have no chance to win. Lynching JoeBob over him was a mistake. The role fit perfectly with Nico’s character. He was the only one to know the existence of the two camps besides the gods. The Romans even called him the ambassador of Pluto. He is the one that gathered all the information and gave it to the seven members with respect to the Doors of Death. You would also have to assume that JoeBob or his scum partner thought of that claim or it was hand given. Either way, even though JoeBob was lynched, it was fine. Even after Greyparrot was lynched optimally DP2, it was fine. DP3, every town member should be ashamed of themselves.
Barney literally claimed Bodyguard as Percy Jackson. Fine, since that was the fake claim I gave knowing that the Lightning Rod is similar to that. Austin claimed Ascetic as Annabeth, which is a massive red flag. There is nothing remotely even close character wise that justifies her being an Ascetic. Not being able to be targeted by non-lethal roles has no connection to anything Annabeth does. The second item that Wylted rightfully picked up was that Barney didn’t say his action failed when he visited the Ascetic. This is a massive scum slip that just seemed to disappear, which frankly was astonishing. Wylted said for some reason that Austin and Barney cannot both be scum for some odd reason which made zero sense. If anyone should have been lynched, it should have been Barney. I was surprised that Whiteflame did not say anything about this--he is the most detailed focus person I have played with. That’s another reason why I think there was some tunneling from him. Even after everyone claimed, there was also no thematic analysis done.
With the remaining players: Hazel, Leo, Reyna, Rachel, Percy, and Annabeth, what was the distinction? A simple analysis would see that Percy and Annabeth are the odd ones out especially since Hazel and Leo were practically town. And that in fact was the theme: the only members of the Seven to go to Tarturus and come out alive. Barney should have been the lynch DP3; Barney was ready to bus himself in the mafia PM after that mistake. With Barney gone, the Mafia JOAT was finished and Best Korea could use the Tracker on Austin or anyone else. It would still be some information. Long story short, the Vader lynch was atrocious from a thematic perspective, a mod psyche perspective, and from a role perspective. Of course that isn’t to say scum played nearly perfectly, but as I told Lunatic, I think the game may have been a little scum-sided.
Regardless, it was great that everyone contributed, and I hope you all learned someone new and are now interested in reading the series. That’s all I have for now. Let me know if you have any other questions.
I was very disappointed in the town this game. It was really frustrating to watch as a mod. Mafia definitely had all the tools they needed to succeed, and they were effective in using them, so huge credit from them. Even after the first two day phases, town had a solid shot of winning the game, which I will explain in a little bit.
First, I would like to say that scum MVP is definitely Austin. He was clearly townread by practically everyone throughout the DPs. My only recollection of him being suspected was by Lunatic in DP1 for behavior. Other than that it was a pure town read in DP2 by everyone and a minor scum read via POE in DP3. He was great at analyzing the game and making sure that scum had as much information as possible. I think Wylted or someone rightfully mentioned that Austin was phishing for information quite early on. The research into the characters and theme was also great in the scum PM for Austin. Barney did a great job of compiling the information and providing his experience to create the most effective night action plan with Austin’s critical thinking and prioritization. Huge props to them.
I do not think there was a town MVP this game. Best Korea ironically made the right decision in investigating Wylted cause scum were going to visit him anyways. He could have used the 1x Tracker from Whiteflame in NP3, which is why I was saddened when town just moved to lynch DP3. VTNL is the best option, period. Even if Vader was going to be lynched the next day, more information always benefits town. It was surprising Whiteflame did not even think about this, which leads me to believe it was clearly a tunnel on Vader. Vader did not play optimally by immediately claiming 1x Cop. Even scum thought Vader was a full blown cop, which is why they tried to Actress him NP2. I was astonished that Vader was scum read even after claiming 1x Cop. You would have to assume that scum are ballsy or received a fake claim of a 1x Cop. If they did receive the fake claim of 1x Cop, why would they claim that instead of a full Cop, especially that early on. It doesn’t make sense at all. You would also have to assume that I am bastard and would give Cop as a fake claim. Not only that, you would have to assume that I gave Rachel and a character justification to scum as well.
That is just one part of the puzzle. I was also disappointed that Town did not lynch Greyparrot DP1. He claimed third party and would have no chance to win. Lynching JoeBob over him was a mistake. The role fit perfectly with Nico’s character. He was the only one to know the existence of the two camps besides the gods. The Romans even called him the ambassador of Pluto. He is the one that gathered all the information and gave it to the seven members with respect to the Doors of Death. You would also have to assume that JoeBob or his scum partner thought of that claim or it was hand given. Either way, even though JoeBob was lynched, it was fine. Even after Greyparrot was lynched optimally DP2, it was fine. DP3, every town member should be ashamed of themselves.
Barney literally claimed Bodyguard as Percy Jackson. Fine, since that was the fake claim I gave knowing that the Lightning Rod is similar to that. Austin claimed Ascetic as Annabeth, which is a massive red flag. There is nothing remotely even close character wise that justifies her being an Ascetic. Not being able to be targeted by non-lethal roles has no connection to anything Annabeth does. The second item that Wylted rightfully picked up was that Barney didn’t say his action failed when he visited the Ascetic. This is a massive scum slip that just seemed to disappear, which frankly was astonishing. Wylted said for some reason that Austin and Barney cannot both be scum for some odd reason which made zero sense. If anyone should have been lynched, it should have been Barney. I was surprised that Whiteflame did not say anything about this--he is the most detailed focus person I have played with. That’s another reason why I think there was some tunneling from him. Even after everyone claimed, there was also no thematic analysis done.
With the remaining players: Hazel, Leo, Reyna, Rachel, Percy, and Annabeth, what was the distinction? A simple analysis would see that Percy and Annabeth are the odd ones out especially since Hazel and Leo were practically town. And that in fact was the theme: the only members of the Seven to go to Tarturus and come out alive. Barney should have been the lynch DP3; Barney was ready to bus himself in the mafia PM after that mistake. With Barney gone, the Mafia JOAT was finished and Best Korea could use the Tracker on Austin or anyone else. It would still be some information. Long story short, the Vader lynch was atrocious from a thematic perspective, a mod psyche perspective, and from a role perspective. Of course that isn’t to say scum played nearly perfectly, but as I told Lunatic, I think the game may have been a little scum-sided.
Regardless, it was great that everyone contributed, and I hope you all learned someone new and are now interested in reading the series. That’s all I have for now. Let me know if you have any other questions.
