The Heroes of Olympus Mafia DP2

Alright. Glad he answered your questions and we can at least move on for the end of the DP.

Nevermind...someone visited you, which means no dream.

Would you mind sharing your character claims?

He said he was visited in the night. Dreamers don’t get results if they’ve been visited. Makes me a bit unsure of his role claim tbh, but his character claim seems solid.

I’m OK with that if it helps things along. I’m Leo Valdez.

No somebody visited me

I need to sleep very soon. As I see it, I will be putting my vote on Vader or GP as I think either is a good lynch, its just that I would prefer GP lynch as the only way to make sure he is not scum doing gambit fake claim is to lynch him.

The decision is up to you, though I agree it is between those two. Just don’t ship off before voting.

I'm Jason Grace.

I am certain I am not the only one who sensed that something is wrong here, since if GP wins if game ends on dp5 it makes no sense that he is helping us find scum, since if we successfully find scum now and next dp, which is dp3, GP loses. So to put it simply, even if we were to believe that that is his win condition, it still follows that he has no interest in helping us find scum. He cannot win if town wins in dp3, and he doesnt win if town doesnt mislynch at all.

Scenario 1:

Dp3 is 3 vs 2,

Dp4 is 2 vs 1

Dp5 town wins or scum wins.

Scenario 2

Dp3 4 vs 1

Dp4 2 vs 1

Dp5 town wins or scum wins.

So its obviously in his interest to make town mislynch at least once from now on. I think we played the guessing game long enough and just consider that scum's gambit could easily be GP's claim since it is unconfirmable role which just happens to have "I am a third party" excuse in advance in case he turns guilty by cop and claimed early so he doesnt even get investigated. So its a perfect gambit to bypass even imvestigation and if town falls for it, it works much better than "I am irrelevant unconfirmable town role" gambit usually used by scum, and the fact that GP's gambit is unusual is what makes it more effective. Also, take note that we dont lose anything by lynching GP, as he is not town, so we dont reduce number of town players, and we have to lynch him because if we dont, then he will do everything he can to make us mislynch, as it is his claimed win condition.

Additionally, its disturbing that some players were so quick to focus on Earth for no reason, but it just makes me doubt them more since it seemed like desperate deflection and not an actual scum hunt.

Also, in both scenarios I presented, if GP makes it to DP5, even if he is not scum, he can make scum win by joining them as in dp5 it will be 2 town vs 1 scum plus greyparrot, and GP can make town lose by quickhammering with scum.

There is 5 town, 2 scum, and a TP. If town loses 2 on dp2/np2 and 2 on dp3/np3

I will lose.

But killing me will extend it out a day so I might win with scum if you lynch me.

Earth (1/5) - Wylted

Actually, if I get lynched, it will be 4v2 on dp3 which will be a very likely mylo. Thus game ending on DP4

I prolly will still lose cause town is pretty bad :(

I'm not gonna get into the definitions and schematics of straightforward vs the best lynch because my lynch for you would be the best lynch in your eyes

Well, we’re not going to have too much time tomorrow so people need to start picking a side. I’m fine lynching either GP or Vader, neither of whom has a vote up right now. Both of you should pick a target.

The rest of you need to make a decision. And, yes, I include WyIted in that. You posted a vote on Earth before a lot of back and forth happened. He will not be lynched this DP, so make a decision. 

Oh, and Barney of course. Didn’t mention him even though I pinged him.

Greyparrot (3/5) - Earth, BestKorea, Barney

If we get to 4 on GP, I'll go ahead and hammer tomorrow morning.

and we should no lynch next DP. just no lynch and then in LYLO we all put everything on the table and admit all of our actions andbe 100% honest about everything

We got 4 on him. This will take us to Mylo and we should no lynch. Next DP unless we have strong evidence beyond behavioral analysis for scum. At lylo we will probably have a 60% or better chance of hitting correctly. 

We can cover what we’re doing next DP when we get there. Let’s just end this DP and see what happens.

Actually right after I sent that I was thinkingbwe couldnreverse the order. No lynch today and hit GP next DP or go another route. Oh well

If he is scum and not TP than I guess we have more options. Maybe assuming 2 scum. 

I am still TP...prepare accordingly.. I hope you guys make it to dp5!

Well, we'll work with whatever we get.