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@HistoryBuff
so your post is that being a complete asshole upsets people?
Is it being an asshole or is it just the pro Black position taken to it's logical conclusion?
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@RationalMadman
Instead, I support the idea that all should either be proud or not proud and I lean towards not proud of things they didn't earn.
Fair, but would I be proud to be very good at math? A lot of that is genetic I think, and I didn't earn my genes.
the fact of the matter is that I do battles here all day and I do battles in games, so I am a warrior because I attack people to take their happiness so I am happy
The fact of the matter is that no one gives a shit anywhere near as much as you do. You spend your whole life, all your mental energy and time trolling people just so they can be annoyed for a couple minutes then move on with their lives. It's a pathetic waste of time, and at the end of the day you will never be happy and you are dead inside. Sure it may give you a temporary thrill just as much as it gives them temporary annoyance, but then they go back to their lives and you go back to yours. They go back to having families that love them, back to having jobs that pay more than yours, back to being happy and healthy relative to you while you rot in some apartment and starve yourself because you can't cope with life.
You aren't winning, you are every definition of "loser" wrapped in one sad bundle.
just know that I was vegan for a year and it was horrible as I was delusional, since human happiness is contingent on causing suffering to others, and you cannot even be happy if no one suffers.
I don't give a shit about any of that. I am telling you that a balanced diet and consistent meals is better than what you're doing. I never said you should be vegan.
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@TheUnderdog
so your post is that being a complete asshole upsets people?Is it being an asshole or is it just the pro Black position taken to it's logical conclusion?
you are proud of your privilege. IE you are proud that you are treated better than other people. Yes, that is being an asshole.
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@HistoryBuff
you are proud of your privilege. IE you are proud that you are treated better than other people. Yes, that is being an asshole.
I took the SAT and got a 690 on it for the math section (98th percentile). I got many privileges based on that (and I believe my math smartness is largely genetic as my Dad taught it for 20 years or so). I am proud of that privilege. Does it make me an asshole? No.
Being proud of your privilege doesn't make you an asshole.
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@TheUnderdog
I took the SAT and got a 690 on it for the math section (98th percentile). I got many privileges based on that (and I believe my math smartness is largely genetic as my Dad taught it for 20 years or so). I am proud of that privilege. Does it make me an asshole? No.
that isn't white privilege. It has nothing to do with being white at all. And there is certainly a genetic component to intelligence sure. But that is not why you do well in math. You do well because your father knew the subject material. He likely helped you study. Or, that you studied harder in that subject knowing he would be critical if you did poorly. That has nothing to do with your "heritage" or genetics.
Being proud of your privilege doesn't make you an asshole.
being proud of white privilege does. In your example, you being good at math didn't make anyone else worse off. You getting a good score doesn't give them a bad score. But you getting picked for a job because of the color of your skin does make them worse off. Being proud of that makes you an asshole.
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@FishChaser
The fact of the matter is that no one gives a shit anywhere near as much as you do. You spend your whole life, all your mental energy and time trolling people just so they can be annoyed for a couple minutes then move on with their lives. It's a pathetic waste of time, and at the end of the day you will never be happy and you are dead inside. Sure it may give you a temporary thrill just as much as it gives them temporary annoyance, but then they go back to their lives and you go back to yours. They go back to having families that love them, back to having jobs that pay more than yours, back to being happy and healthy relative to you while you rot in some apartment and starve yourself because you can't cope with life.You aren't winning, you are every definition of "loser" wrapped in one sad bundle.
Happiness from battle is only temporary if you stop doing battles, not that you would know that since you are clearly promoting a virgin peaceful way of life which is disgusting, but keep eating leaves and lie to yourself that it makes you happy when it doesnt, as you lust for battle and you are attacking me here and many other users, so please dont say that you are interested in peaceful solutions, as I am not and no one should be.
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@FishChaser
I am telling you that a balanced diet and consistent meals is better than what you're doing. I never said you should be vegan.
I am telling you that life is battle, and if you are afraid of some hunger and cant stand being hungry, then I say what I usually say to people like you, which is to stay among women as you are like them.
But look at powerful positions at most companies and you will find they are overwhelmingly white and male.
Look at people who are white and male and you will see that they are overwhelmingly normal ass dudes who don't have anything special going for them.
White people get treated better at all levels of society. Is that an admission that you are wrong?
Well there are just more white people in countries such as the US, and more whites in positions of power so maybe. But the fact remains that it is no longer normal for whites to be racist and it is still normal for everyone else to be racist when it comes to actual hate of other groups and not just some slight subconscious bias.
based on the arguments you are making, the smart money would be on that you said something racist.
I'm talking about the ones who hate me by default for being a white male.
You being unattractive and unlikeable doesn't really have anything to do with this subject.
It has to do with pretty privilege, height privilege, neurotypical privilege, "normal" privilege and female privilege.
All of these are more pervasive and severe than white privilege.
I can't really comment on your personal experience.
You don't care about my experience but you care about black people's experience even if they aren't experiencing shit.
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@Best.Korea
Life is war, and the ones who benefit from war are the rich powerful people who send others to die for them while they sit back eating lobster and smoking cigars. You are convinced that the cannon fodder are the ones benefitting and it's just sad and stupid.
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@FishChaser
Look at people who are white and male and you will see that they are overwhelmingly normal ass dudes who don't have anything special going for them.
what? That doesn't even make sense. I never said they were special. I said they get treated as if they are special. Look at the percentage of white males in america, then look at the percentage of white males that make up the government. Or that make up manager level positions in companies. They are WAY over represented.
But the fact remains that it is no longer normal for whites to be racist and it is still normal for everyone else to be racist when it comes to actual hate of other groups and not just some slight subconscious bias.
I guess it depends on what you mean by "normal". Another guy is currently arguing with me on this site about how he is proud that he gets treated better than black people. So you may want to re-evaluate that opinion.
I'm talking about the ones who hate me by default for being a white male.
I have no idea what your experience is. I don't know if that is even true. But even if it were true, it wouldn't really be relevant to a discussion about society as a whole. Maybe you live in a racist town. Or maybe you just interpret people hating you as racist, when they hate you for you. I can't know that.
It has to do with pretty privilege, height privilege, neurotypical privilege, "normal" privilege and female privilege.All of these are more pervasive and severe than white privilege.
All of those except "female privilege" I would concede definitely do exist and are also an issue. Female privilege, I would need to know more about what you are talking about. For example, females are often favored in divorce or custody proceedings. That is certainly privilege. But in most respects, women are treated worse than men in our society. So saying they are privileged as a group, I would strongly disagree with.
And I would definitely not agree that any of these are as pervasive or severe as white privilege.
You don't care about my experience but you care about black people's experience even if they aren't experiencing shit.
I care about your experience in the same way I care about any one individual black person's experience. It is a single data point in a much, much larger picture. You can't take one person's experience and extrapolate that out to a society. Maybe you are unlucky and know lots of racist people. Maybe you live in a racist area. Maybe you engage in behaviors that put you in contact with racist people (for example, being friends with KKK members would significantly increase your odds of coming into contact with racism), maybe you are doing things that are triggering these kinds of responses (like saying you are proud of your white privilege like another person on this site is doing).
any of those things could change your experience as well as a million other factors. Which is why you can't use your own personal experience, or any other one persons' experience, as the basis for your opinions on societal issues. You have too look at the experiences entire groups of people are having.
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@HistoryBuff
that isn't white privilege. It has nothing to do with being white at all.
What's the difference between white privilige and smart privilige?
You getting a good score doesn't give them a bad score.
Me getting a good score means I'm more egilable for jobs that caused someone else to be disqualified.
Lets say there are 15 job applicants; Applicant A,B,C,... N, and you. A's SAT score is 1200, B's is 1190, C's is 1180, etc. Lets say the job takes the top 10 job applicants by SAT score and SAT score is all that is considered. If your SAT score is 1210, then Person I is out of a job because of you. If your SAT is 1010, then Person I has a job.
You having a high SAT score would make it harder for Applicant I to get a job than if your SAT score was lower.
The only reason scores are relavent is for jobs and colleges (which in theory lead to jobs).
So it's ok to be proud of whatever privilige you have.
That has nothing to do with your "heritage" or genetics.
I'm not saying me being white made me good at math. But my genes I think had a lot to do with it (by genes, I think I mean high functioning autistic genes; not white genes).
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@TheUnderdog
What's the difference between white privilige and smart privilige?
one is based on your race. The other is based on your dad teaching you math. You really can't see the difference between those two things?
Me getting a good score means I'm more egilable for jobs that caused someone else to be disqualified.
uh huh. but you took the same test. They could study hard and get the same score. You doing well is not white privilege. now, if you go to a school that is well funded, has lots of one on one teacher/student time and that caused you to get good grades, but black students a few miles away have to go to a run down school where 1 math teacher is teaching 50 kids and has no time to help them individually, then that would be white privilege. You see the difference?
So it's ok to be proud of whatever privilige you have.
unless it is based on repression of others. then it isn't.
I'm not saying me being white made me good at math. But my genes I think had a lot to do with it (by genes, I think I mean high functioning autistic genes; not white genes).
there is certainly a genetic component to intelligence. but you know what is an even bigger component to being good at math? Having a math teacher for a dad. He was likely available to help teach you. That's not genetic.
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@HistoryBuff
one is based on your race. The other is based on your dad teaching you math. You really can't see the difference between those two things?
One is genetic (race), the other is genetic (autism based intelligence).
uh huh. but you took the same test. They could study hard and get the same score. You doing well is not white privilege.
So you can be proud of privileges that are objectively good (being born smarter) but not privileges that are objectively neutral (being white)? That seems like a fair standard.
now, if you go to a school that is well funded, has lots of one on one teacher/student time and that caused you to get good grades, but black students a few miles away have to go to a run down school where 1 math teacher is teaching 50 kids and has no time to help them individually, then that would be white privilege.
It would be more like, "Highly funded school privilege" which I would be proud of if I had it since I want schools to be better funded to increase national average IQ.
there is certainly a genetic component to intelligence. but you know what is an even bigger component to being good at math? Having a math teacher for a dad. He was likely available to help teach you. That's not genetic.
I have a sister. My dad helped her out and he helped me out. Only one of us is very good at math (me; not my sister). I believe at math, I am genetically smarter than my white sister. Dad was helping us both out.
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@HistoryBuff
Do you honestly think life is so easy as a white man?
How happy are you amdmhow easy is it to get there? Bet it has nothing to do with your race. On a separate note, affirmative action punishes white men the most, objectively.
RM,
Do you honestly think life is so easy as a white man?
Statistically, yes.
The only one beating white people by quality of life is Japan.
Anywhere else, from Africa to asia to latina, you are literally condemned to a shitty life from start and I am glad I am white and not black or chinese.
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@Best.Korea
Japan is not beating white people in quality of life, it isn't even a social democracy which is the system of all the best countries in terms of quality of life.
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@FishChaser
I would love if I was born in Japan as they have loli porn and are overall cool people which if I must notice are very good in terms of religion, as I do find shinto to be the best of religion, and Japanese people generally dont care about nonsense which white, black and non-japanese asian teach. You know it took me a long time to overcome cultural indoctrination which I experienced and I have to say that when person's mind is bombarded by stupidity I was bombarded with, then the odds of becoming anything in life greatly decrease, even tho I still managed to become the world's smartest person despite bad odds.
bro you need to decide whether you are republican or democrat, because it is one thing to strawman 50% of the political spectrum but strawmanning 100% is just weird.
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@TheUnderdog
One is genetic (race), the other is genetic (autism based intelligence).
no, one is genetic (race) the other is having a subject matter expert living in your house to help teach you.
So you can be proud of privileges that are objectively good (being born smarter) but not privileges that are objectively neutral (being white)? That seems like a fair standard.
no, you can be proud of privileges that are objectively good. You can't be proud of privileges that are based on you hurting other people.
It would be more like, "Highly funded school privilege" which I would be proud of if I had it since I want schools to be better funded to increase national average IQ.
better funded schools are a good thing. But the system we have means that "white" areas tend to have better funded schools. I would fully support better funding all schools.
I have a sister. My dad helped her out and he helped me out. Only one of us is very good at math (me; not my sister). I believe at math, I am genetically smarter than my white sister. Dad was helping us both out.
It's possible your genetics played a part. But personality also likely played a big role. As an example, I have siblings that were very good at science. So I didn't want to focus on science classes and focused on things like history instead. Maybe your sister saw you were really good at math and focused on something else. Maybe she was mad at your dad and associated math with him. Maybe she just didn't like school at all and was a poor student. There are a million things that could have affected that outcome.
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@RationalMadman
Do you honestly think life is so easy as a white man?
in a vacuum? no. Life is hard for everyone. Compared to being black, yes. Black people have all the same troubles and problems white people do, but with the extra ones of discrimination based on their race.
How happy are you amdmhow easy is it to get there? Bet it has nothing to do with your race.
It's hard to say if had anything to do with my race. Maybe if I had been black I wouldn't have gotten into university? Maybe if I had been black I wouldn't have been hired for the jobs I have had. Maybe if I had been black a cop would have decided he didn't like the look of me and trumped up charges against me. Maybe if I'd been black, when I reached for my license on a traffic stop I would have been shot.
On a separate note, affirmative action punishes white men the most, objectively.
this is objectively true. But that's like saying democracy punishes royalty and nobility. The nobles lose power and influence when you allow commoners to have power and influence. But that power and influence was based on the discrimination against the "commoners". A more equal society has to take away from those who monopolize power over society.
White men have always been in the position of having hugely over inflated wealth and power. Anything that makes society more equal, by definition, will take away from white men. If you want to cling onto a world where you are the dominant race and are able to discriminate against others to protect your status, you can try. but it wont end well for anyone.
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@Best.Korea
Statistically, yes.
Wrong. Asians are the most privileged people in the world, both in worldwide majority status and also wealth and class status in America.
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@Greyparrot
Wrong. Asians are the most privileged people in the world, both in worldwide majority status and also wealth and class status in America.
You are embarrassing your white fragility.
On 6 and 9 August 1945, the United States detonated two atomic bombs over the Japanese cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. The bombings killed between 129,000 and 226,000 people, most of whom were civilians,
When Oppenheimer was asked if we should kill that many civilians, he probably said "they are only Asians".
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@Best.Korea
Whites are inherently fragile compared to Asians. Asians don't make excuses for their skin color. They dominate instead.
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@HistoryBuff
You can't be proud of privileges that are based on you hurting other people.
My white privilege (if it exists) does not me involve hurting anyone.
better funded schools are a good thing. But the system we have means that "white" areas tend to have better funded schools. I would fully support better funding all schools.
I agree.
It's possible your genetics played a part. But personality also likely played a big role. As an example, I have siblings that were very good at science. So I didn't want to focus on science classes and focused on things like history instead.
What made your siblings good at science and you good at History was your interests (that I think genetics has at least some role to do with it).
Maybe she was mad at your dad and associated math with him. Maybe she just didn't like school at all and was a poor student.
When she was 7 years old, I don't think she was making that connection.