Why I (as a man) prefer they/them pronouns

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It's because being gender neutral is a product of Anglo-American civilization and Anglo civilization is the best out there for tending to lean libertarian compared to the others.  Spain and France are too influenced by the Catholic Church and all of their authoritarianism.  The Anglos and Germanic groups believe in more liberty by comparison.

When I say Anglo civilization, I don't just mean stereotypically white English speaking countries.  I also mean places like Jamacia, Nigeria, and Papua New Guinea as well.

I am proud of my civilization and this civilization happens to be gender neutral, so I like using gender neutral pronouns.
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Why would I care how I call people?

There is no reason to respect them.

They are brainless insects.

If they cant defend themselves, they deserve to be attacked.
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Also, the only logical economical system is imperialism and militarism.

Even if your population becomes poor, you can attack other countries and steal their wealth, kinda like how America does.
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Yes, we get it, you hate trans.
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@Best.Korea
What has Underdog transitioned to? Enlighten me.

Maybe make less homophobic topics before talking about trans rights like you support them.

Look at your profile, you're pretending to be trans.

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If you are this triggered about gender pronouns that you cant even respond to Underdog's argument then I dont see why are you even commenting and trying to derail the thread in a pathetic way to make it about me instead of about the topic you are supposed to discuss.
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@TheUnderdog
I wouldn’t say loving something solely for being a part of your culture is a good reason.

Also, I’m not convinced gender neutral pronouns are part of our culture. Certain subcultures, yes, but American culture as a whole? No.

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Underdog's 'argument' XD right
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From your first reply to now you derailed and trolled in disgusting ways even, dehumanising people.
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You replied 'we get it, you hate trans' to who? Blatant pretending I derailed or made it about you when you did about me.
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RM,

I am not going to derail the thread any further just because you cant come up with arguments and while my first arguments were related to topic, all of your arguments are about me and not even related to the topic and you are literally derailing the thread so if you have any dignity left then you will go back to discussing topic and not making pathetic attacks on me which I can at this point only assume are another mental breakdown of yours which came sooner than I expected.
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@TheUnderdog
You're gender neutral but sex specific.
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BK said he's not derailing the thread and that I'm making it about him. Gets upvoted, while he originally made it derailed and now keeps making it about me.

IQ of upvoters is questionable.
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@Best.Korea
and while my first arguments were related to topic


Let's look:
Why would I care how I call people?

There is no reason to respect them.

They are brainless insects.

If they cant defend themselves, they deserve to be attacked.
Disgusting viewpoint and unrelated to the topic.


Also, the only logical economical system is imperialism and militarism.

Even if your population becomes poor, you can attack other countries and steal their wealth, kinda like how America does.
Er... What's this got to do with it?


Yes, we get it, you hate trans.
Cheap shot dumb remark aimed at me but can't @ me as blocked.

Remind me again... What was it you said on topic?

Try gaslight someone else into feeling bad about themselves, I am not the one.
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RM, 

You are clearly failing to understand that Underdog made economical argument so I made economical argument, and my first argument is about why we shouldnt care about gender pronouns. But when we look at your arguments, then we see that all what you talk about is me and nothing about topic so I urge you again to stop being so triggered and return to the topic and I will even help with that by asking you what do you think of the topic, so try to come up with some relevant arguments this time.
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@Best.Korea
Some relevant arguments to a shitpost OP that ridicules queers and transgenders that actually identify as pronouns different to their birth sex?

I mean the dude thinks he's being respectful in his delusional way, I guess? Nothing to argue, just facepalm and move on.
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TheUnderdog made civilization argument, which follows a premise that if greatest civilization does something, then that something is probably good as such civilization obviously does things better than other civilizations.
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Also, cultural arguments are common in debates.
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Also, I’m not convinced gender neutral pronouns are part of our culture. Certain subcultures, yes, but American culture as a whole? No.
In Latin Languages, almost every noun is gendered (la silla, el lapiz, etc).  In English, we just do gender neutral (chair, pencil, etc).

Being gender neutral is part of Anglo American Civilization.
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@TheUnderdog
Go to Jamaica and Nigeria and use your pronouns. Come back and talk about your OP.
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@TheUnderdog
Being gender neutral is part of Anglo American Civilization.
So are the Five Families. Let me go join the Italian-American mafia because it honors American culture.
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Eh ... too far.  I don't like travelling.  If they hear my justification and it isn't nonbinary stuff, then I think they would respect it.
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@Mharman
Nah ... they are murderers that should have their heads chopped off or should face the firing squad.
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@TheUnderdog
You are misinformed. Protogermanic had gendered language including pronouns.
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@TheUnderdog
That’s my point. Not everything in our culture is good… if you can even say those pronouns are even a part of our culture (I’d say they’re more of a part of the progressive subculture).
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Not everything in our culture is good…
Yeah, but some things are neutral.  Like the fact that America's colors are red, white and blue (vs Mexico's Red, White, and Green) is neutral.  But being red white and blue is a product of American Civilization, so I feel better about Red, White, and Blue than Red, White, and Green.
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@TheUnderdog
Gender ideology is not a neutral… I have no idea how you can believe that.
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@Mharman
Being gender neutral is a product of Anglo American Civilization (especially compared to our neighbors on the other side of the southern border).  Spanish speakers gender all of their nouns; we don't do that up north.

Gender ideology is different than being gender neutral.