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@Best.Korea
Who re your town reads?
Indie Games Mafia [DP2]
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@WyIted
If I was scum, why wasnt I going for easy lynch?
You said people to hammer.
I was online. I could have done it as soon as you said it.
I could have done it and no one would blame me.
Yet I didnt.
Does scum play like that?
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@Best.Korea
People will vote one of you this game, irrelevant of what you say.
I am not voting pie this game unless somebody investigates him guilty. I am not being voted out this game. If me or pie are scum than town loses. That's all there is to it.
I will say you should full claim though.
VTL Bet.Korea
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@Best.Korea
I like your reasoning. VTL WYLTED
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@AustinL0926
-"If I am him I go completely silent as a stalling tactic upon hearing this. [WYLTED]" - Post 100. Doesn't this seem kind of weird? In what world would 7k be able to stall out the remaining two and a half days of the DP? Seems like Wylted is trying to subtly encourage someone to hammer him before people consider 7k's claim more carefully.
I was trying to encourage a hammer. I am not a patient player and my fear is usually that we have scum in the noose and then we have a town player or 2 that get sucked into their bullshit and thy wriggle free.
Also I think there are benefits to lynching early. For example if we lynch him and he is scum we have caught scum and denied scum of information while at night our information gathering roles help us narrow scum.
Vote Count
BestKorea (2/4) - Pie, Wylted
Wylted (2/4) - BestKorea, Greyparrot
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@WyIted
Here are my reads.
1. Whiteflame - Town, obviously
2. Best.Korea
3. Greyparrot - slightly scum due to role
4. ILikePie5 - likely scum
5. Wylted - likely scum for luring people into hammer then asking why
6. Bullish - possibly scum, due to lying that 7000 claimed scum when he didnt
7. AustinL0926 - town, due to warning 7000 as opposed to jumping on lynch.
8. JoeBob - closer to scum than town, but due to being a new player, its nothing
9. 7000series - town obviously
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@Best.Korea
If I was scum, why wasnt I going for easy lynch
Why would you when it is pretty certain he would b lynched? Why would you contribute to making lynch analysis easier.
I will say if we use lynch analysis which don't rely heavily on we have GP and Pie as clear, joebob as mostly clear and bullish as likely scum.
I won't explain reasoning because I don't want scum to use the reasoning to avoid be analylized, we also know that lynch analysis is worse than actual behavioral analysis.
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@Best.Korea
possibly scum, due to lying that 7000 claimed scum when he didnt
This strawmanning is ridiculous. I thought maybe it was just me. I also interpreted the same statement as 7k claiming mafia.
"I AM not the big mafia boss"
Implying that he is the small one.
I never blame town for their own mislynch, but 7k is the exception. It wasn't a noob slip it was him acting scummy, maybe intentionally.
How was it intentionally acting scummy? Acting dumb does not equal being scum. At the very least, we should have prodded him more about why he softclaimed a power role. Maybe it was for attention; maybe it was to provoke scum; maybe we would have known if we waited for another minute.
If you read through that DP and didn't get surprised at the flip than I am going to not be able to take you seriously.
Ofc I was surprised at the flip, but you seem to be deflecting.
I will also say if you were online after he claimed a role too powerful to claim that is definitely active and then claimed vanilla and also where he lightly claimed mafia straight out it would be very suspicious if you didn't rush the lynch.
I wasn't online at the time, but even if I was, I wouldn't have rushed the lynch.
Also if BK is not on Your scum list right now, that is suspicious.
I would be inclined to say he's being too scummy to be scum, if you buy that sort of logic. I'm not opposed to getting a claim out of him, though.
Why did whiteflame die. Did they think he was a cop or something? Did he soft claim it?
He didn't feel like an intimidating presence. Anyone want to get I to analyzing the reasoning for the NK before we make another mistake?
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@WyIted
"I was trying to encourage a hammer. I am not a patient player and my fear is usually that we have scum in the noose and then we have a town player or 2 that get sucked into their bullshit and thy wriggle free."
I'm calling BS on this. This is not MYLO, this is literally the first DP where the scum players have the least flexibility when it comes to their day actions, because it can come back to bite them later. Hammering 7k early harms no one but town.
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@WyIted
Why would you when it is pretty certain he would b lynched?
Fast game benefits scum.
You were the one going for extremely fast game.
In fact, you jumped on that vote with first opportunity, knowing that 7000 is a new player and that he just made a mistake.
So yeah, my vote stays on you.
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@WyIted
whiteflame is the most experienced player along with you and Pie. Barring any softclaims from other people, he would be the obvious choice.
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@WyIted
"I AM not the big mafia boss"Implying that he is the small one.
Implying =/= saying
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@AustinL0926
I would be inclined to say he's being too scummy to be scum, if you buy that sort of logic. I'm not opposed to getting a claim out of him, though.
The fake logic is pissing me off though I do realize town can also use shitty logic. This logic seems manufactured though. Thinking it is wrong to question the reasoning behind a hammer or questioning Bullish's interpretation of a handful of words.
Maybe it was for attention; maybe it was to provoke scum; maybe we would have known if we waited for another minute.
I am never going to be a patient guy. It's a flaw in some situations and a blessing in others. I am explaining why I was in a rush and not trying to justify it.
It's legitimately painful for me to think somebody is scum and with 48 more hours for others to come around. Or worse to seen others on the lynch change their mind.
He was never getting off my scumlist so thank God he was lynched because if I was in Mylo with him, he would be gone and we would lose.
I can tell you pie is definitely town. I can tell you this because I always know what he is DP1 because unlike others I am not impressed with his scum play. I also know he is good at catching scum and you should really be reading everybody's posts once but his twice.
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@AustinL0926
I'm calling BS on this. This is not MYLO, this is literally the first DP where the scum players have the least flexibility when it comes to their day actions, because it can come back to bite them later. Hammering 7k early harms no one but town.
Okay in Mylo is where I would go against this and be patient. WTF why would you be more in a rush in MYLO. I can be certain I am right but in MyLO I will soften my reads and reconsider everything from a fresh perspective because as far as I knownI rarely if ever make a mistake in LYLO.
Also I think Bullish is the most experienced player here.
Also no offense to whiteflame I don't think his experience matters that much since he isn't a very impactful player. It might help him be on the right lynch but he is usually hard to pin down as town and he isn't ever going to lead a lynch. Not that it matters what I think it matters what the scum team thinks.
I wonder who else has this impression of whiteflame and would have left him alone as scum.
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@Best.Korea
Implying =/= saying
So what?
Is there some point to pointing out Bullish's statement was hyperbole?
This is just fluff. Obviously it was hyperbole and this statement doesn't get us closer to finding scum.
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@AustinL0926
Lets first get a claim from Wylted.
If it is vanilla and his character seems made up, we have our scum.
He does tend to make up roles as well.
Back from school. I read it and didn’t understand the end. What happend?
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@Bullish
@ILikePie5
@JoeBob
Help me get a claim from Wylted.
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@JoeBob
Back from school. I read it and didn’t understand the end. What happend?
You lynched an innocent person my dude. Single handedly at that. WTF?
Why did you do it?
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@Best.Korea
I already told you.Wylted told joe to hammer, and then he blamed joe for hammering.I dont see how is that town behavior.
Wylted can fight his own battles. You’re my top scumread right now and you need to full claim immediately.
Glad whiteflame was NKed. I always struggle to read him because he talks like a robot. Sucks he was cop.
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@Best.Korea
Here are my reads.1. Whiteflame - Town, obviously2. Best.Korea3. Greyparrot - slightly scum due to role4. ILikePie5 - likely scum5. Wylted - likely scum for luring people into hammer then asking why6. Bullish - possibly scum, due to lying that 7000 claimed scum when he didnt7. AustinL0926 - town, due to warning 7000 as opposed to jumping on lynch.8. JoeBob - closer to scum than town, but due to being a new player, its nothing9. 7000series - town obviously
Two pages later finally. Only town read is Austin. Interesting
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@ILikePie5
I will claim only if and when I am at 4/5.
Even if that happens, it will be Wylted's turn next.
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@Best.Korea
Help me get a claim from Wylted.
You need to full claim.
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@ILikePie5
The only person who has said my name I even remotely care about defending my behavior to is Austin and he isn't exactly a town read so it's only a mild interest.
I wouldn't be shocked if yesterday's lynch was all town. I cant see any member of town having a legitimate reason for being off that lynch. The only people who could possibly think he was innocent are scum which makes anyone off the lynch more suspicious TBH.
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@JoeBob
Back from school. I read it and didn’t understand the end. What happend?
7000series was lynched. He was innocent. Whiteflame died in the night, and he was the cop. Do you have any information to provide the rest of town? If not then please vote Best Korea. He literally had no reason to vote me and he still did anyways.
I have no problem claiming. I am just not going to do it unless town wants me to. Right now I have the slimmest player asking for a claim and no other people. Meanwhile BK has obvious town asking him for a claim