Wylted Mafia DP2

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@RationalMadman
Clearly pie is going to win or lose the game on Joebob. Noob-snipers gonna snipe >:(
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@RationalMadman
It was random turned maintained. You 'gathered support' okay, I never worry too much about that you know me by now.
Lmao you scumread me for it. Make that make sense


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@RationalMadman
Definitely true. I also do this much more often as Town so when the ylook at those past games you asked them to look at they'll realise it's my Townplay to do this. I am aggressive as fuck but admit I'd be aggro and active even as scum. That's my style.
Exactly, you’re a bully. To fight bullies you need another bully (me)
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@JoeBob
And that’s the thing. I don’t know who to belive. One side is vote pie and the other is vote rational.
You have to make a judgement based on who you townread. Do you townread GP more or Austin?
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@ILikePie5
idk if i am a bully but i can roll with it because aggression is important in mafia, it's the only way to make the enemy squirm and slip.
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@RationalMadman
idk if i am a bully but i can roll with it because aggression is important in mafia, it's the only way to make the enemy squirm and slip.
You can pressure and have the same thing happen without being a bully
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@Greyparrot
it's plurality we have time (though Wylted saying scum got Town PMs is an issue to me hardtownreading you, Austin has done fuck all to Towntell this game and Pie has scumtold all over the place).
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@JoeBob
No pressure or anything (lol) but there's clearly 2 teams here. Either me and RM are evil or we are both town with you.

Look back on DP1...look at how we voted...how the conversations flowed...do your best.

The world is depending on you!
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@ILikePie5
You can pressure and have the same thing happen without being a bully
I literally am just very active and pressure people often. It's the frequency that's scary and maybe 'nolife' is the meme maybe it's just I know how to use X minutes brutally efficiently over and over.
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-First: mod PM thingie

RM has played enough games that he knows there is no way a reasonably competent mod (and Wylted may be many things, but he does have substantial mafia experience) wouldn't give a sample of town PM to scum, especially if requested. I legitimately think there's no way that RM would actually try to support this point if he was trying to help town (to the point of claiming that giving PM samples is "abusive" [post 52]).

(As a side note, this puts some suspicion on GP, but it could also just be WIFOM from RM so we'll see)

-Second: scumslip 1

Post 78 by RM:

. If you 100% know that Austin is scum then why did you vote Pie at the end? - [JOEBOB]
at the end of what?

I know it's Austin only after Austin claimed my role. - [RATIONALMADMAN]
Except even after I claimed my role, you didn't change your vote.

See post 42 (I claimed before this post btw):

My ego. I am voting you. - [RATIONALMADMAN]
So either you're voting Pie just to be petty, or you're trying not to draw my attention onto you. I think it's the latter.

-Third: scumslip 2:

Post #55:


"GP did not actually claim vanilla this entire game yet but I am sure in your mafia chat you have regarded him as a vanilla for a while now so you forgot to check that before posting this." - [RATIONALMADMAN]

Except... he literally did, at the beginning of the game, by saying "I do not know my role yet." Whether he realized it at the time or not, GP showed that he was vanilla. The fact that you somehow "forgot" about this after literally claiming that GP is confirmed townie all game is crazy.

This is deflection, pure and simple.

-Fourth (personal opinion)

RM has literally been panicking more and more throughout this day phase. You don't have to buy this, but his logic and posts have gotten less and less convincing. Call it a feeling or something, but that's just my take.


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@Greyparrot
Please explain why it is not possible for Pie and RM to be scum, btw.
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Please explain why it is not possible for Pie and RM to be scum, btw.
GP did not say this he said he reads you and Pie as the team, he just didn't spell it out. I am speaking on his behalf as this is just a bs thing to ask.
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RM has played enough games that he knows there is no way a reasonably competent mod (and Wylted may be many things, but he does have substantial mafia experience) wouldn't give a sample of town PM to scum, especially if requested. I legitimately think there's no way that RM would actually try to support this point if he was trying to help town (to the point of claiming that giving PM samples is "abusive" [post 52]).
In all other websites I've ever played mafia at that's literally bannable like you get a permaban if you as a mod/host do that. I had no idea that happens.
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@RationalMadman
RM you probably already know me, I wont respond if I agree with your strategy.
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@JoeBob
Please see above. Also, consider that voting RM is the best choice, since the only way that we lose this if we do that is if Pie and Parrot are both scum. So how do we know that's not the case? Post #128.

No pressure or anything (lol) but there's clearly 2 teams here. Either me and RM are evil or we are both town with you. -[GREYPARROT]
Greyparrot would have absolutely no reason to do this if he was scum with pie, throwing his teammate under the bus is completely dumb when they could win instantly by forcing town to mislynch.
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If you give a specific full PM you sent Town to Scum instead of just role descriptions you're sending and the structure of the PM or something on top, to Mafia, that's not allowed in any other place Mafia is hosted.
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Please explain why it is not possible for Pie and RM to be scum, btw.
You’d have to believe that RM began bussing me literally beginning of DP1 to set it up for right now (the fluff comment). The foundation for the bussing is weak af too: fluff and tagging. I’m also telling you we’re not a team. I wouldn’t be trying this hard to get him lynched if we were the same team. If RM wanted to bus me, why would I fight back this hard and flip it back onto him? I’d have let the wagon on me continue if bussing was our strategy 
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"In all other websites I've ever played mafia at that's literally bannable like you get a permaban if you as a mod/host do that. I had no idea that happens."
??? It is universally considered terrible game design to allow Town to win through PM analysis. It completely defeats the purpose of mafia as a social deduction game.
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Wait I just realized I deleted a double post b/c I forgot we're not supposed to delete, sorry about that
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@RationalMadman
RM, I would advise you to only talk to Joe from here on out.
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@ILikePie5
I don't entirely buy that, but I will say that rn I would say GP is like 80% scum and you're maybe 20%.
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@AustinL0926
Yes you have a point. I’m almost certain you are not mafia. Which means it’s either GP, pie, or RM. We have a 66% chance of getting it right. Since if there is two mafia, and I don’t think I need to explain the rest. So thus, I am sticking with voting RM.
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??? It is universally considered terrible game design to allow Town to win through PM analysis. It completely defeats the purpose of mafia as a social deduction game.
correct.

both showing mafia how the town pms were structured is banned and any reference to the PMs is banned.

In the tryhard sites what GP did gets him kicked (from the game) a mark against him, game has to be reset and host is punished too with a 'mark' against them for forgetting to send the vanilla role.
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RM, I would advise you to only talk to Joe from here on out.
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@JoeBob
why are you remotely certain austin isn't mafia? Austin was the third vote on 7kseries day 1, the vote that really sealed the deal and got the day 'rolling'. Austin barely paid attentiont ot he game until right around 2-3 hours ago.
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@AustinL0926
I don't entirely buy that, but I will say that rn I would say GP is like 80% scum and you're maybe 20%.
I’m willing to work with that.
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@JoeBob
Joebob you are wrong we are going to lose, what has made you sure I am mafia?
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@JoeBob
It's actually a bit better than 66% btw, since there are three possibilities:

RM + GP
RM + Pie
GP + Pie

But since we know that GP + Pie (as well as RM + Pie) is impossible due to post #128, (where GP claims that he and RM have to be town together), than that leaves just the first possibility. Feel free to ask me if you see anything wrong with this logic.


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@JoeBob
It's actually a bit better than 66% btw, since there are three possibilities:

RM + GP
RM + Pie
GP + Pie

But since we know that GP + Pie (as well as RM + Pie) is impossible due to post #128, (where GP claims that he and RM have to be town together), than that leaves just the first possibility. Feel free to ask me if you see anything wrong with this logic.


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"why are you remotely certain austin isn't mafia? Austin was the third vote on 7kseries day 1, the vote that really sealed the deal and got the day 'rolling'. Austin barely paid attentiont ot he game until right around 2-3 hours ago."
Funnily enough, the end of the school week for me was 2-3 hours ago. Coincidence? I think not!