Any men wanting to step up?
I'm curious.. what makes men superior to women (in general)?
Why are men superior to women, all things considered?
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@Bella3sp
Superior by what metric?
To natural selection women are superior.
To an economy men are stronger with no significant handicaps.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
In general, are men superior to women?
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@Bella3sp
There is no such thing as "in general". All values are relative to value systems. Value systems are either arbitrarily chosen by abstract intelligence or intrinsic to the definition of life.
Life is that which organizes it's energy against entropy to increase the likelihood that matter will continue to exist in that form. Life is the fundamental good. Death the fundamental evil.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
Either you do or don't believe men are superior to women.
I'm not looking for the loopholes of "well we are biologically stronger" by one case.
I'm asking, are men superior than women, in general? And how so?
i think you could make the case men are superior with classic reasoning. men are more dominant and women submissive. men are stronger. more are more competitive and aggressive. there are more men geniuses, even if there are more men retards. men earn more money, even if it's just cause women struggle with children in the job market. then at least for elite men, there's the one's who are the most attractive, can have their pick of the liter over attractive women, given cream of the crop men are so desired by women. men lead relationships, usually. men are the entertainers, even if they often are dancing like monkies to do so. men are the ones who keep the economy ticking with hard and advanced jobs. men lead medicine and law, two commonly thought of advanced fields.
just some ideas that could fit that argument. women have some points in their favor, of course.
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@Bella3sp
It's not a yes or no question.
It's like asking if steel is superior to copper.
It depends on the purpose.
If men were superior, I would be gay.
Why are you gay?
Just joking, I dont care why you gay.
I guess whether they are superior or inferior depends on the task you need them to do for you.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
In general superior in physical strength.
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@Best.Korea
They are superior.
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@Bella3sp
For one the physical make-up ratio is different.
Then there's the superiority in logical thinking based on the divided traits in parenting .
I don't have a formed opinion about the subject matter but I once heard of my uncle that men are superior because we have penis. He usually sings a known colombian song that says something like this: "Bless my mother for giving birth to me male...". I guess the author of this song might be right.
Hope that helps.
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@Bella3sp
1 Corinthians 11:3
3 But I want you to understand that the head of every man is Christ, the head of a wife is her husband, and the head of Christ is God.
This thread is asked by someone with a haplessly obvious agenda to 'expose' some misogyny.
Unlike misandrists, who genuinely think men are idiot scum and inferior to women very often and are your standard person who says 'women are superior', there is actually a variety to the other side. What I mean is that nearly 100% of women or even self loathing men, who say men are inferior to women, genuinely hate men. That is actually correlated. However, it is not accurate to associate misogyny with the outlook that men are superior. Some abusive, toxic men and even women, see girls and men inferior to boys and women, the fact their outlook very often extends to minors suggests some deep psychological issues at play.
There is not always hatred or abusive tone attached to people seeing men as 'superior' since it depends on context. Like ADOL said, it is about what situation and also (again, unlike misandrists) the view that women generally are inferior at certain things does not tend to extend to those (both men and women) holding the view in 2024 saying 'all women suck more at X' unless we talk physical feats.
Men are extreme. They are smarter and dumber, the strongest beast to the skinniest dweeb to the fattest blob. Men are very severe in how they evolve/transform from little boy to whatever they end up as. They specialised obsessed and dedicate to things in a more ferocious and competitive manner than over 96% of women do. This is why the best 24 people in most fields is generally all men but this tends to be less true in 3 things:
- Fields involving a lot of interpersonal interaction (social skills and EQ).
- Fields requiring hybrid skill sets meaning those good at it need a lot of skills across both logic, creativity and social too.
- Fields primarily considered to be creative arts.
However, you will find that only category 1 of those 3 has women consistently dominate it. The other 2 have the genders merely evened out.
In this respect, men are superior to women, because not that the individual man is better at everything than the individual woman but often as a gender, they are primarily the gender of top people at anything.
This is often attributed to patriarchy rigging it for them, yet even with women having an equal shot at things and affirmative action forcing corporations and educational institutes to give them that fair chance, they still aren't dominating most fields by and far by a massive margin.
This is due to both not wanting that stress level (workload) and lacking the tendency to specialise and hardcore obsessed how men do over things. This is also why autism is much more prevalent in the male gender, because to obsessed about things and dedicate like autistic people do is much more common for boys and men.
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@Bella3sp
Having posted the more objective thing that supports the title you are trying to make out to be some indefensible thing, we can go full on 'sexist' and look at general tendencies and what 'superior' means.
You used 'superior' toake it even harder to defend than 'better' but you made a fatal error.
Men are not better than women, since we are not even as a species better than ants but... Superior? We are.
If you put 200 women, not selected to specifically contain outliers and 200 men in any scenario, you will find the women gather together better but the men do far more with any gathering in the long run.
Every second of a man's day that isn't just him goofing off is spent to survival and evolving, even lazy bums have this instinct in them. What makes men capable of being lazy bums where women struggle to cope as that (ever noticed you have far less female hobos?) Is not some sexist notion that women can just become prostitutes easily instead. It is that women are better at flowing with life, men are better at analysing how much they need to survive and calculating if they want to be fighting for it or fighting for more (and going with that decision).
What I am going to tell you will even explain why men are on average prone to be more alpha or leader like than women, it is the same reason that the laziest losers are men and this is something not understood even by most psychologists today.
Men analyse constantly the best use of effort to reduce the need to put in more effort later. This instinct is something I call calculated laziness and I have barely ever come across or heard of a woman that has behaviours that imply she does this. Almost all men above 95 IQ let's say, have their brains constantly running in the background analysing what they can do to reduce effort later. They then have their brain run a second layer of thinking which asks despite what I can reduce later "how much can I greed right now and afford short term pleasure and laziness?"
This is so innate to all males, even a lot of boys once puberty hits, that they assume it's just so ordinary for females to do and that everyone does it. This is wrong.
It is an instinct we could dub 'managerial instinct' because what I am hinting at is this:
If you leave a group of 400 people in a survival situation, 200 of each sex, not gender alone it is XX Vs XY, you will find that the men consistently outplanned and outthought the women in frequency but maybe didn't outplay or outdo them as consistently.
The reason is threefold:
- Men are prone to fight each other more viciously than women are with each other. It is likely the men will seek to eliminate male rivals before female ones often, letting women pivot around such rivalries.
- Because women lack this instinct to constantly analyse minimum effort requirements and adapt to momentary greed opportunities, they are able to easier flow with situations, even if it's to their detriment later. What this means is that they easier will obey other leaders, make it female and just flow with things often rather than plan to coup, destroy or whatever else. This lets them actually survive more by sheer well built relationships and others coming to their defense that they obeyed and went with the flow of. Men don't tend to as easily and consistently go with eh flow of others' plans, making it a consistent meme almost that you'd see men iutplayung themselves by risks they took to eliminate either women or other men, due to women having a superior network of trusted people they kept going with he flow of and nurturing while the men were often aggressive and resistant to go with the flow. What I am saying is the tyrant leaders and brave rebels will likely both be men, the women will be very capable of working with either to suit their agenda but much more likely will side with the tyrants if the tyrants healthily reward obedience. This is linked to the women not having much instinct to plan ahead to topple it not worry if they're having to keep do more than the minimum btheh should be needing to doz Vs the other 399 people there, whereas the men will consistently be analysing that even if they're voting to work harder.
- The men will, as I just said, opt at times to be suckers. While women will go with the flow in a true sense often, men will do it but keep tabs. The moment they feel screwed over they'll be the first to angrily protest. This will lead to turmoil, making women again able to play the middle.
Over time you'd see that if resources are limited, the men 'in charge' fight harshly with the men rebelling against them. The women will keep the men fighting at first but eventually they want strong men doing some of the hard labour and want men even for sexual reasons or whatever, I mean some men are fun to be around. At that point, things will drastically shift. The men left will realise they no longer need to fight each other off as those left are happy with the current regime and instead impulsive microaggressions between the women will probably begin to erupt as the decider of who dies next, if we assume there aren't set tasks if a game show regime altering this.
Eventually, it's a question if who'd sacrifice for who, social ties, love formed etc. The men could outlive the women in theory but probably will take the bullet except for the sociopaths (but most of them would be eliminated by the revel Vs tyrant rivalry stage) the women will also struggle a lot emotionally and even physically because they didn't calculate minimum strain in the days or weeks prior.
Men are not better than women, but they are prone to constantly analyse what the situation around them is and the minimum effort needed for long term gain. That doesn't mean male 'suckers' that work too much for too little gain do not exist, they just wrongly calibrated their calculations.
Women would be spending more time seeing how to reduce stress and enjoy their life in a more today Vs tomorrow sense for most of the survival scenario. Ironically, that actually suits a survival scenario better than the long term planning instinct of men.
You can say I am talking shit, you would see exactly what I am saying happen if it occured.
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@Bella3sp
Trolling for incels Bella?
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@Sidewalker
I would never, ever!
How could you think that Mr. Walker?
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@IlDiavolo
Good to know!
And I wouldn't suppose it would be 0.2 inches as well?
Men are superior, yet can't birth their children through that superior penis of theirs? Sounds about right..
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@WyIted
I have already thought about that, but I'm looking for a generalization made by men.
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@Mall
Better in physical strength, yet not mentally.
Women tend to dominate in studies as they tend to keep higher grades, graduate, and surpass men. We usually see that pattern across the world.
Ever wonder why there is an increase in women in physical workplaces?.. Maybe because women were "granted" that opportunity rather later.
And instead of comparing just parenting skills, we can see that same pattern of intelligence with rational thinking. Women also dominate when it comes to rational thinking.
Are gorillas superior to men because they are stronger?
Are women superior to gorillas because they are smarter?
Women are, in your point of view, superior.
Men realistically mostly dominate only in the physical field.
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@FLRW
Christianity is not my belief, and I will not apply it to objective reality.
Even if we did use the Bible..
How do we apply the logic to single females?
Disregarding that factor, I ask you read the link below for your understanding of the Bible in that passage, and in general.
https://medium.com/@damilolawrites/does-the-bible-support-male-superiority-57a12c2bf810
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@Bella3sp
I have already thought about that, but I'm looking for a generalization made by men.
I dont think any man believes women are inferior.
They are worse athletes.
They typically think more with their heart than their head, although that isn't necessarily bad since you need both.
I don't think you will find anything other than stuff like that but the same people who state that stuff will still acknowledge that women are superior for example in things like social settings.
When I was in sales the women struggled less to keep their numbers high as a result of being superior socially as well as less threatening.
I seriously doubt anyone would call males superior
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@WyIted
there are several things men are superior at beyond sports, idk what context is being asked but you can argue for it, you are wrong that noone will say it or defend it.
Trolling for incels Bella?
You can defend this topic and get a lot of pussy, defend this topic and have gay sex (obviously it would even fit the topic) and defend this topic and be voluntarily celibrate.
There is no correlation between this topic and incel culture actually, they rarely think men are that great at all.
I wonder why bella3sp didn't rebuke my posts.
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@Bella3sp
False premise. False dichotomy.
That's why China is currently having a bunch of problems because so many women chose to abort females under the 1 child policy.
It's also why America is currently having so many problems as entitled women refuse to pair bond with men, rather choosing the government to support them and raise a critical mass of generations of fatherless children with catastrophic societal consequences.
It's nothing Darwin's survival of the fittest cannot eventually recalibrate. Objectively, the most fit trait of any dioecious species is the diversity of yin and yang.
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@Bella3sp
The world has 40,663,944 or 40.66 million more males than females. Gender Ratio in the World in 2023 is 101.016 males per 100 females. There were more females than males until 1964.
Oh calm your horses, RationalMadMan.
I'm getting to everything now.