Some ways you can show support for Trump

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So here are some things you can do that don't involve being cringe and wearing a red hat.

1. If you live close to a purple state, use a friend's address to vote I that state. If the left can use dead people you can use a friend's address.  Do not waste your vote in a solidly blue or solidly red state. Get your ass to a purple state.

2. Carrot max. By eating carrots everyday your skin will start to turn orange. This is a scientific fact. Carrot max my niggas https://youtu.be/p5IanqBmlyg?si=ML9q_qtXr1ItySKR
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f you live close to a purple state, use a friend's address to vote I that state.
so your argument is to commit a crime. and specifically, the crime you accuse others of doing. With republicans, every accusation is confession. 

If the left can use dead people you can use a friend's address. 
see the thing is "the left" doesn't do that. I've heard of more cases of republicans engaging in fraud voting with their dead parent's information. The people telling you "dead people are voting" are lying to you. And when it does happen, more often then not it's a republican doing it. 

Carrot max. By eating carrots everyday your skin will start to turn orange
this is actually true. But you would have to eat basically only carrots for this to happen. I'm sure trump would be touched that you want your skin to look like his. 
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inb4 someone takes this thread seriously 
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Dang, looks like I was too late
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so your argument is to commit a crime. and specifically, the crime you accuse others of doing. With republicans, every accusation is confession. 
If only one side is committing crimes than that puts Republicans at a distinct disadvantage. 

Don't thinknwe haven't noticed the attempts to shoot down election integrity laws, voter ID etc.

see the thing is "the left" doesn't do that. I've heard of more cases of republicans engaging in fraud voting with their dead parent's information. The people telling you "dead people are voting" are lying to you. And when it does happen, more often then not it's a republican doing it. 
IIf leftists weren't more likely to do hat there wouldn't have been a massive push for mail in ballots so that lefties could help their conservative grandmother's fill out ballots  and mail them in for their senile grandparents with zero checks and balances to ensure this didn't happen.

It's not slick. We all know exactly what is happening and why democrats push laws that make election fraud easier to commit. 

this is actually true. But you would have to eat basically only carrots for this to happen. I'm sure trump would be touched that you want your skin to look like his. 
No it has to do with an excess of beta carotene so you just need to eat like 5 or 6 carrots daily without missing a day. 
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You tried.  Thats all that matters
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If only one side is committing crimes than that puts Republicans at a distinct disadvantage. 
this is stupid. Your argument is that you want to undermine democracy because some liars on tv told you people you don't like are already doing it. But they are lying to you. 

Don't thinknwe haven't noticed the attempts to shoot down election integrity laws, voter ID etc.
because those laws aren't what you think they are. Those laws don't solve an actual problem. There are very few cases of fraud where those laws would do anything. What they are designed to do is to make it harder to for people to vote legally. They aren't "election integrity" laws. They are "voter suppression" laws.

IIf leftists weren't more likely to do hat there wouldn't have been a massive push for mail in ballots so that lefties could help their conservative grandmother's fill out ballots  and mail them in for their senile grandparents with zero checks and balances to ensure this didn't happen.
Almost none of that made sense. Mail in ballots are designed to increase voter turnout. There are alot of people who have a hard time getting to a polling station on election day. So mail in ballots make it easier for them to vote while still living their lives. It is right wing grifters trying to convince you that these laws are somehow evil voter fraud machines. I mean, trump himself votes by mail. 

It's not slick. We all know exactly what is happening and why democrats push laws that make election fraud easier to commit. 
no it's not slick. It is completely fabricated by right wing grifters. They want you angry and afraid so they can control you. So they make up lies so you think the other side is evil and you won't question them. 

No it has to do with an excess of beta carotene so you just need to eat like 5 or 6 carrots daily without missing a day.
it's more like 7-10 carrots a day and that eating that many carrots a day will result in you getting sick. Also, if you have a balanced diet, Ie eating healthy, balanced meals in addition to the carrots the effect would be pretty mild. Probably not very noticeable. If you wanted to actually turn orange, you would have to eat basically only carrots for weeks.

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inb4 someone takes this thread seriously 
I mean, there are tons of right wing idiots who have actually done stuff like this. Committing fraud to cast an extra vote for trump. I agree it would be a better world if yo could read something like this and know it's a joke. Sadly, with trump being what he is and his followers being cultists, there are alot of people who would say this very seriously. And I don't know the original poster well enough to know how cultish he is. 

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There are very few cases of fraud
This is dumb. You can't possibly know exactly how much fraud is occurring because voting is anonymous. 

And when you claim that the left is coping for making election fraud easier by claiming it makes it easier to vote, it doesn't surprise me. Yes the godless leftists are more likely to cheat and help their senile grandmother full out their ballot, and obviously the criticism of mail in voting is unsolicitedballots that allow leftists to cheat easier not the entire process. 
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This is dumb. You can't possibly know exactly how much fraud is occurring because voting is anonymous. 
The beginning of election wisdom.
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Perhaps you should start by not assuming the worst. This whole “Trump supporters are a bunch of cultists” garbage led you to think this guy was actually being serious.

I’m a pretty strong conservative, but you would never catch me calling liberals, Democrats, and Biden supporters “cultists.” They are simply people who disagree with me. Some are idiotic, but most are people of normal or high intelligence, who simply drew the wrong conclusions.

Demonization of the other side of the aisle is exactly how we get polarization, lackluster debates/communication, censorship (in some cases), and (in this case) situations where people miss an obvious joke.

Sure, there are always going to be some people on both sides that would unironically advocate for voter fraud, but that is not all of them. If you think even a sizable amount of people (percentage-wise) on the other side of aisle would post this unironically, you are wrong, and desperately in need of some irl communication with people on the other side.

In the case of Wylted here, I highly doubt he’s seriously advocating for election fraud. He may have just wanted to discuss what he believes to be voter fraud on part of the Democratic Party, and created this troll thread to bait people into conversation. Alternatively, he may have just been wanting to troll, and then saw an opportunity to have this discussion once you replied.
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This is dumb. You can't possibly know exactly how much fraud is occurring because voting is anonymous. 
lol, by that logic you have absolutely no idea either. You are saying there is a danger for something you have no evidence even exists.

And when you claim that the left is coping for making election fraud easier by claiming it makes it easier to vote, it doesn't surprise me. 
I never said they were making it easier for election fraud, you did. 

Yes the godless leftists are more likely to cheat and help their senile grandmother full out their ballot
what is your basis for this? Where is your evidence this happens? It seems to be based 100% on your emotions. 

obviously the criticism of mail in voting is unsolicitedballots that allow leftists to cheat easier not the entire process. 
republicans don't criticize mail in balloting because they are afraid of fraud. they criticize it because they are afraid of people actually voting. they know their policies are unpopular. the only reason they win is because for millions of americans, voting isn't worth all the hassle. If voting was easy, republicans would lose. That's why republicans want laws around voting to be as restrictive as possible. The less people who vote, the better their odds are of winning. 
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This is dumb. You can't possibly know exactly how much fraud is occurring because voting is anonymous. 
lol, by that logic you have absolutely no idea either. You are saying there is a danger for something you have no evidence even exists.
Why do banks even keep records? If you didn't keep records you wouldn't know if anybody withdrew more than they put in, and there is no point being afraid of something for which no evidence exists.
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Perhaps you should start by not assuming the worst. This whole “Trump supporters are a bunch of cultists” garbage led you to think this guy was actually being serious.
I've been around this website on and off for awhile. My assumptions are well founded. Many people on this website are trump cultists. 

I’m a pretty strong conservative, but you would never catch me calling liberals, Democrats, and Biden supporters “cultists.” They are simply people who disagree with me. Some are idiotic, but most are people of normal or high intelligence, who simply drew the wrong conclusions.
I mean, why would you? There are very few people out there who "love" biden or the democrats. there are millions of people out there would literally kill and die for donald trump. 

Demonization of the other side of the aisle is exactly how we get polarization, lackluster debates/communication, censorship (in some cases), and (in this case) situations where people miss an obvious joke.
that's fair. But I have shown people, on this website and elsewhere, quotes of donald trump saying he thinks he can suspend all laws including the constitution. And the response is something like "well he didn't mean it". I agree polorization is a problem. But the mindset of the maga subset of the republican party engages in cult like thinking. They will worship trump no matter what. He says he wants to end the constitution but they still believe he wants to protect it. He has slept with porn stars, cheated on his wives, sexually assaulted women, admitted that he likes sexually assaulting women on tape, but millions of people think he defends family values. He publicly made the republicans stop a bill to protect the border, but his followers still believe he is the one that wants to protect the border. That isn't politics, its a cult. 

Sure, there are always going to be some people on both sides that would unironically advocate for voter fraud, but that is not all of them. If you think even a sizable amount of people (percentage-wise) on the other side of aisle would post this unironically, you are wrong, and desperately in need of some irl communication with people on the other side.
I mean, you say that. But donald trump managed to get a crowd of people to attack the capitol and try to overthrow democracy. You say there isn't a sizeable amout of people who would advocate committing crimes for trump. My response is, if you actually believe that then you aren't paying attention. 
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Why do banks even keep records? If you didn't keep records you wouldn't know if anybody withdrew more than they put in, and there is no point being afraid of something for which no evidence exists.
I have no idea what you are rambling about. My point is that there are all kinds of security policies in place to make sure our elections are fair. Voter ID laws are looking for a problem that doesn't exist. But they aren't intended to actually address that fake problem. They are designed to suppress voter turn out. Because the higher the turnout, the worse the republicans do. 

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This is dumb. You can't possibly know exactly how much fraud is occurring because voting is anonymous. 
Unbelievable. There are people whose job it is to identify and track voter fraud. What little they have found has been perpetrated by Republicans.

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My point is that there are all kinds of security policies in place to make sure our elections are fair.
That was not your point. You were pretending that a lack of auditability was equivalent to accuracy.
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There are people whose job it is to identify and track voter fraud
There are people who identify bank fraud, but if there were no records they wouldn't find much.
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That was not your point. You were pretending that a lack of auditability was equivalent to accuracy.
I definitely did not mean that. I don't even know why you would think I meant that. I didn't say anything like that. And elections can and are audited all the time. So i don't even know what you are talking about.

There are people who identify bank fraud, but if there were no records they wouldn't find much.
are you suggesting there are no records in elections? Because that is wildly untrue. 
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It's not slick. We all know exactly what is happening and why democrats push laws that make election fraud easier to commit. 
Democrats push laws to make voting easier.

Republicans push laws to make voting harder.

Who has trouble voting? Poor people. Single mothers. People who don’t have cars or a drivers license. People who work multiple low wage jobs.
Young people who procrastinate. People who think voting doesn’t matter.

Just like in Vegas, you just need to tilt the odds a little to be a winner.

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Mail-in ballots do not equate to “no records”

Mail in ballots are sent to registered voters

Same for early voting.
Drive through voting 
Drop boxes

And Republicans are the ones who tried to steal the 2020 election 
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And elections can and are audited all the time.
So you are told. Its a bit like the police investigating themselves and promising you that if you had seen what they'd seen you wouldn't suspect them of corruption.


are you suggesting there are no records in elections? Because that is wildly untrue. 
There are plenty of records, just none that can be used to quantify mail fraud.
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Mail in ballots are sent to registered voters
Some of whom have died, or live in parks, or in abandoned lots. Many others are confused as to why they had to cast provisional ballots because the database indicates they had already sent in a mail-ballot.

It does take someone of lukewarm intelligence to put the pieces together. Don't worry you have as much time as you need.
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The same laws that make voting easier make it also easier to commit proxy voting. You can have free or fair elections, but you cannot have both. A secure election necessarily means all votes cannot be freely counted with no oversight. A fair election means fraudulent votes cannot be freely cast and counted.


1 in 5 isn't insignificant.
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The only way to have laws ensuring fair elections is to abuse the system to the point government officials will be forced to take action due to public outrage.
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I've been around this website on and off for awhile. My assumptions are well founded. Many people on this website are trump cultists. 
I'm seriously questioning what you define as a cultist, but I'll ignore that for a moment. There's a reason I said "irl communication" earlier. While rational people exist on the internet, it is always the unreasonable that are the loudest and most seen. Many of the more rational minds can't stomach the idea of internet conversations these days, as a result. This applies for both wings.

I mean, why would you? There are very few people out there who "love" biden or the democrats. there are millions of people out there would literally kill and die for donald trump. 
That is a perception you have, but I don't see a whole lot of evidence for it. I'd bet that if "millions of people" were really that willing, we'd see a lot more political violence than we currently do. Nothing you could even cite includes anywhere near that large of a number.

But I have shown people, on this website and elsewhere, quotes of donald trump saying he thinks he can suspend all laws including the constitution. And the response is something like "well he didn't mean it". I agree polorization is a problem. But the mindset of the maga subset of the republican party engages in cult like thinking. They will worship trump no matter what. He says he wants to end the constitution but they still believe he wants to protect it. He has slept with porn stars, cheated on his wives, sexually assaulted women, admitted that he likes sexually assaulting women on tape, but millions of people think he defends family values. He publicly made the republicans stop a bill to protect the border, but his followers still believe he is the one that wants to protect the border. That isn't politics, its a cult. 
All of this is a perception you have of previous debates. I likely wasn't there for any of those, but I get the sense there is more to the story than what you are telling me. I'm not accusing you of lying, but I'm keenly aware of how two people with different perspectives can easily fail to be on the same page. Most of the accusations you just levied against Trump are ones I don't believe to be true, because they are based on reports that are lacking context. I am open to discussing these at a later date when I am not as busy (tbh, I probably shouldn't be responding here; I think I'll just let you have the last word after this post), on a thread dedicated to those topics.

Here's the thing: You've collected a list of things you believe are falsehoods purported by Trump supporters. At the end of the day, all of these are disagreements. Someone will be right and someone will be wrong in debates about all of these, but holding incorrect political beliefs and defending them does not reach the level of "cult-like behavior." Your argument is basically that Trump supporters are cultists because they are wrong on a bunch of things. I could collect the same amount of things I believe to be ridiculous defenses of prominent Democrats and leftist ideals, but that doesn't suddenly make the people who believe those things "cultists." To understate: A real cult has a bit more going on than just incorrect beliefs.

I mean, you say that. But donald trump managed to get a crowd of people to attack the capitol and try to overthrow democracy. You say there isn't a sizeable amout of people who would advocate committing crimes for trump. My response is, if you actually believe that then you aren't paying attention. 
I don't believe he is responsible for Jan 6, and I don't believe everyone there was attempting to overthrow the government. Add that to the list of things I'd be willing to discuss at a later date.

Once again, nothing you could cite reaches the amount of people in the millions, or even close to it (not even when combined). The amount of people at Jan 6 is nowhere close to sizable, not in a country with ~330 Million people that can pull ~150 Million votes in one election, with about half going to each candidate.
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So you are told. Its a bit like the police investigating themselves 

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That is a perception you have, but I don't see a whole lot of evidence for it.
How many Trump flags have you seen displayed?

Have you ever seen a Biden or Obama flag?

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What is cult behavior? There are several behaviors associated with cults. Someone who is in a cult might lose their sense of individuality, become obsessed with cult doctrine, or cut contact with loved ones.