A man convicted of defaming an ordinary citizen about raping that same person…

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You ought to talk to Edward J. Friel. Friel was another small business owner initially thrilled by the prospect of supplying Trump's first Atlantic City casino with cabinets for slot machines. But after the job was both completed and approved, Friel tells CNN, Trump refused to make the final payment, meaning Friel made no profit on the deal.  
The Trump Organization has been criticized for stiffing contractors. Contractors have filed hundreds of complaints, which date back to the 1980s, alleging that the real estate company did not pay them.



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Yes, you shouldn't pay people who do not deliver, be it private contractors or the public government.

Sound advice for any American.
 
Don't let the government or incompetent cabinet makers steal your money.
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Did he violate any tax laws and if not what's your point? Why would anyone with a brain pay any taxes they don't have to legally. Seems to me you have a problem with those who write the tax codes. Quit frankly and with all due respect, anyone and I mean anyone who doesn't take full advantage of the tax code to pay less or no taxes legally  is a fiscal fucking idiot.
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Did he violate any tax laws and if not what's your point?
I'm pretty sure that they would have gone after him if he actually broke any tax law given that they're making up laws that he broke and trying to clean him out for denying rape accusations.

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Greyparrot: Ah Luv Trump !      sadolite: Ah Luv Trump !

“These are issues much bigger than Donald Trump. Trump’s returns likely look similar to those of many other wealthy tax cheats—hundreds of partnership interests, highly-questionable deductions, and debts that can be shifted around to wipe out tax liabilities,” Senate Finance Committee Chairman Ron Wyden (D-Ore.) said in a statement last year.
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Donald Trump paid no income tax during his last year as president, according to his tax returns, which were released to a congressional committee and were made public .
Despite pulling in nearly $11 million in interest from investments in addition to his nearly $400,000 salary, Trump did not pay income taxes because he also reported a $16 million loss from his real estate businesses. That loss put the former president almost $5 million in the red for 2020.

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7 straight years of empty promises to "get the orangeman"

A perfect Democrat is One who loves to be lied to, and wishes for more lies.

P.T. Barnum would have been a king billionaire if the market for Democrats existed in his time!


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That loss put the former president almost $5 million in the red for 2020.
Lol, 7 straight years believing the IRS would get the Orangeman!

I can feel the frustration with the system. Let loose your rage!
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I Like Ike !   Let's get back to a 92 percent top tax rate !
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I Like Ike!
Oh yes! 70 years of broken promises to tax the rich! A very perfect Democrat!

Always trusting! Always angry!

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Trump thinks that taxes should be payed by poor people.
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You think Politicians care about what you think. If they wanted to raise taxes on the rich, they would have done it 70 years ago instead of 70 straight years of empty promises. Why do you support a broken system?
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Why do you support a broken system?
Because I live well and dont prefer the alternative which you are offering?

If they wanted to raise taxes on the rich, they would have done it 70 years ago 
And your alternative raises taxes on the rich?

Last time I checked, it was Trump who did tax cuts on the rich.
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Why do you support a broken system?
Because I live well and dont prefer the alternative which you are offering?
ROFL.... I just lol

Korea is not representative of the left-tribe, not by a long shot; but in this the secret heart of the suburban government beneficiary/ beneficiary's wife shines through.

"Who cares if you are suffering? I don't have to think about those kinds of things. All I have to do is be offended at mean tweets and believe whatever the TV tells me."

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Exactly. BK only represents the laziest faction of Democrats. The left-tribe protestors outside of Biden's and Trump's house certainly don't feel anything close to what BK promotes.
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No modern president was more committed to cutting taxes than Ronald Reagan. The Economic Recovery Tax Act of 1981 lowered the top tax rate from 70% to 50%. Five years later in 1986, Reagan signed the Tax Reform Act, which lowered it again to 28%.
The two acts together are known as the Reagan tax cuts. When Reagan took office, the top rate was 33% higher than it is today (37%), and when he left office, it was 9% lower.
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Oh yes! 70 years of broken promises to tax the rich! 70 years of broken promises to lower taxes on everyone else!

A very perfect Democrat! And a very perfect Republican!

Always trusting! Always angry!

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Exactly. BK only represents the laziest faction of Democrats.
Yes, the aristocracy.
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"Who cares if you are suffering? I don't have to think about those kinds of things.
Well, am I supposed to cry because you arent allowed to have a civil war?

And how does a guy who supports bestiality end up in a Christian party?

Like, which part of you thought "oh these guys are gonna love me"?
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The Trump-Carroll Case is Blatantly the Greatest Miscarriage of Justice in Modern American History.
The awarding of nearly $90 million to the second-rate advice columnist E. Jean Carroll will doubtless be remembered for generations as the greatest miscarriage of justice in contemporary American history. Jean Carroll’s case was not just ludicrous on the face of it, but between the judge, the “experts” who testified, and the mechanisms by which the case even came to be, it’s impossible for any ordinary person in the West to see this as anything more than the continuation of a series of hoaxes perpetrated on former President Donald J. Trump with the desire to keep him from re-entering the Oval Office in January 2025.

THE ‘RAPE’.
During the latest episode of this trial, Carroll admitted she wasn’t doing very well financially and needed to find a way to sell more books. The testimony appears to be the basis for the very first claim she ever made, in New York magazine’s The Cut, in the summer of 2019. Far from a compelling claim, the 80-year-old writer initially laid out the story that her supposed rape occurred either in 1994, before altering the day to be “in the fall of 1995 or the spring of 1996.” She couldn’t remember the specifics. What she did remember was that she was wearing a “Donna Karan coatdress and high heels but not a coat.” She later refused to produce said coat for DNA testing despite admitting to still owning it, describing it as “unworn and unlaundered since that evening.” It later came to light that the coatdress was not made in 1994 or 1995. It didn’t matter to Carroll, who has accused multiple men of sexually assaulting or raping her throughout her life, including a babysitter’s boyfriend, a dentist, a camp counselor, an unnamed college date, an unnamed boss, and CBS chief executive Les Moonves. Carroll also appeared to remember specifics such as the emptiness of the Bergdorf Goodman department store in the early evening – a detail she called “inconceivable” – as well as admitting that it was her who wanted to sexually harrass Trump originally because she wanted a “funny story to tell” about getting the then-infamous New York City developer to put on women’s lingerie. Upon voluntarily entering a dressing room which she claims would “usually [be] locked until a client wants to try something on,” she claims Trump “unzips his pants, and, forcing his fingers around my private area, thrusts his penis halfway — or completely, I’m not certain — inside me.” After apparently struggling free, she says, “I don’t remember if any person or attendant is now in the lingerie department. I don’t remember if I run for the elevator or if I take the slow ride down on the escalator. As soon as I land on the main floor, I run through the store and out the door — I don’t recall which door — and find myself outside on Fifth Avenue.” The story itself beggars belief. If a celebrity had tried to rape me in a public place, I think the first thing I might have done was tell someone. In the words of her own friends, E. Jean Carroll is an “attention-seeker.” It is already difficult to imagine such a scenario unfolding without immediate consequences for the assailant, let alone when the victim is a nationally published attention-seeker.

LAW & ORDER.
But even if your sympathies still lay with Carroll, consider this. Carroll – a self-declared Law and Order TV show fan – first made her allegations against Trump in a 2019 book, just a few years after an episode of the show saw characters discuss a role-played rape in a Bergdorf Goodman dressing room.

   CNN reported in 2019 that Carroll was “an avid Law & Order franchise fan,” to which Carroll – an ostensibly damaged rape victim responded of the “coincidence”: “It tickled me to death.” She called it “a great, huge coincidence, but… a magnificent one.”

‘RAPE IS SEXY’.
One of the critical pieces of evidence left-wing Judge Lewis Kaplan forbade from being shown to the jury was the now-infamous clip of Carroll on CNN with Anderson Cooper. “The word rape carries so many sexual connotations,” she offered in a live discussion in 2019. “This was not sexual,” she added, to which Cooper replied: “I think most people think of rape as a violent assault.” Carroll’s response stunned Cooper himself. “I think most people think of rape as being sexy… think of the fantasies,” she said before CNN hurriedly cut to a commercial break.

Carroll’s entire character is one of bizarre sexual thoughts, antics, and actions. Another piece of evidence the judge refused to allow was that Carroll named her cat “Vagina” and posted repeatedly about anal sex, celebrity fantasies, and pornography. In fact, in 2012, Trump himself was the subject of one of these fantasies Carroll shared on her Facebook page: “Would you have sex with Donald Trump for $17,000?” before going on to suggest that in her fantasy scenario, Trump may not be able to speak. An odd thing to post for someone who alleges that the same man raped her less than two decades prior.  Again, none of this was allowed to be heard by the jury that awarded Carroll nearly $85 million today, in addition to the $5.5 million another Manhattan jury already awarded her in her first case.

CONWAY, JONG-FAST, EPSTEIN, HALEY, HOFFMAN.
Carroll has admitted that she first considered bringing a suit against Trump during a house party hosted by far-left blogger Molly Jong-Fast. Jong-Fast, a writer for the viciously ‘Never Trump’ publications the Atlantic, the Bulwark, the Daily Beast, and Vanity Fair, is the daughter of feminist activist Erica Jong and anti-gun author Jonathan Fast. She is also the granddaughter of communist author Howard Fast. On one evening in 2019, Jong-Fast held a celebration for Kathy Griffin at her New York home. Griffin had recently been in the news for holding up a bloodied, severed prop head of President Donald Trump, suffering public backlash which she claimed “broke” her. But while Griffin was being pieced back together by Jong-Fast and company at the “Resistance Twitter come to life” party, lawyer George Conway, once married to Trump’s pollster Kellyanne Conway, was convincing Jean Carroll to sue Donald Trump. Conway has form in this area, once being involved with an effort to sue Bill Clinton. According to reporter Byron York: “Conway even suggested a lawyer, Roberta Kaplan, who had co-founded a #MeToo legal defense nonprofit group called Time’s Up. Kaplan was apparently deeply committed to helping victims of sexual abuse but deeply committed to politics, too: In August 2021, she resigned from Time’s Up over sexual misconduct allegations against New York Democratic Gov. Andrew Cuomo. The problem was Kaplan was not standing up for victims but was “involved in an effort to discredit one of Mr. Cuomo’s alleged victims,” according to a New York Times report. The E. Jean Carroll case would be a mix of sex and politics but with a Republican villain.” In other words, Kaplan was using Carroll as a means by which to repair her reputation, having attacked Governor Cuomo’s alleged victims. Kaplan – supposedly no relation to Judge Lewis Kaplan, who presided over the Trump case – indeed became E. Jean Carroll’s lawyer. So, who would fund the case? Perhaps someone else looking to do damage control as it was emerging that he visited disgraced sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein’s notorious island. Enter LinkedIn founder Reid Hoffman, who Carroll even initially lied about, when she was asked if someone was funding the operation against Trump. “Is anyone else paying your legal fees, Ms. Carroll?” she was asked during a deposition, responding: “No.” This lie soon fell apart, and Roberta Kaplan was forced to write a letter that stated: “During the course of preparing for her testimony at trial, Ms. Carroll has recollected additional information… While Ms. Carroll stands by that testimony about this case being a contingency case, she now recalls that at some point, her counsel secured additional funding from a nonprofit organization to offset certain expenses and legal fees.” That funding was from Hoffman’s American Future Republic group. But the coincidences don’t stop there. Recently, Reid Hoffman was found to be a major donor to the primary campaign of Trump’s only remaining competitor: Nimarata ‘Nikki’ Haley. What a small world. Hoffman even bragged to New York Magazine’s Kara Swisher: “I will spend as much as I possibly can… [to beat Trump].”

THE EXPERT.
In attempting to put a valuation on the so-called “damage” done to E. Jean Carroll by Trump’s repeated refusal to accept the charges of rape, Roberta Kaplan called “expert” Ashlee Humphreys, a liberal professor who had posed as a reputation consultant against Rudy Giuliani in his recent Georgia case. When cross-examined, Humphreys admitted to having no “real-world” expertise in reputation repair, and a National Pulse investigation found that she has a long track record of contributions to Democrat political groups — making numerous donations through “ActBlue,” which facilitated Black Lives Matter funds, and “Swing Left,” with Federal Election Commission records showing her donating history included supporting candidates, as well as political action committee work and projects such as “Stop Republicans.” During the trial, it was also revealed that Carroll had deleted evidence of the alleged death threats she had received. The same death threats that formed part of the jury’s rationale for awarding her nearly $100 million. When Trump lawyer Alina Habba moved for a mistrial on this basis, she was rudely fobbed off by Kaplan. The judge. Not the lawyer. Such behavior was commonplace in the Manhattan courtroom over the course of the trial. Even when it was revealed that Carroll illegally owns a firearm in New York State, the global media paid no mind. Trump, for his part, was barely allowed to say a word when he took the stand. The judge ordered no new evidence be admitted, and no new testimony was allowed. Just as is the case with Trump’s inability to defend himself from rape allegations in public, the judge insisted he was not able to make that claim in court, either. In which case, you might ask, what was the trial’s point? You would be correct to ask the question. The answer, of course, is “show.” Show trials like this are not commonplace in the Western world. But it happened in New York in 2024. And everyone should be wary. If someone can accuse Trump, without evidence, of a crime committed 30 years ago. If the judge demands Trump may not defend himself. If they can get away with a wildly arbitrary number concocted by a lawyer trying to repair her own reputation, and an overtly partisan “expert” who admits no real-world experience in her supposed field of expertise – all against one of the wealthiest and most powerful men in the world. Well, then, think about what they can do to you.




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It cannot be stressed enough.
— She alleged a rape in a public place 30 years ago but provided no evidence, and couldn't remember the year it happened.
— Her story was remarkably similar to a plot line of Law and Order. a show she binge watched.
— The dress she claimed to be wearing hadn’t even been designed at that point.
— She’s sex obsessed and continues to talk about how “sexy” rape is, as in the Anderson Cooper interview.
— Her case was thought up by George Conway at Molly Jong Fast’s house party, the height of fan-fiction.
— Her case was funded by Democrat Jeff Epstein buddy Reid Hoffman who also backed Nikki Haley.
— Her “reputation expert” admitted to having no experience in reputation repair during cross examination.
She was also found to be a Democrat donor And honestly? That’s just scratching the surface of this debacle.


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 She alleged a rape in a public place 30 years ago but provided no evidence, and couldn't remember the year it happened.
Author Lisa Birnbach told a jury in Manhattan federal court that she “vividly” remembered Carroll calling her one evening in the spring of 1996 and saying Trump had just attacked her in a dressing room in the lingerie section of the Bergdorf Goodman department store in New York City.
Birnbach, author of many books including "The Official Preppy Handbook,” said Carroll told her Trump slammed her into the wall, pulled down her tights and “penetrated her with his penis.”
Birnbach testified that Carroll refused to go to the police after the alleged rape and asked her to never tell anyone about the incident.

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A perfect Democrat is One who loves to be lied to, and wishes for more lies.
Trump lies every day. Every day. And you idiots believe him and vote for him.

You think Politicians care about what you think. If they wanted to raise taxes on the rich, they would have done it 70 years ago instead of 70 straight years of empty promises. Why do you support a broken system?
Republicans dramatically cut taxes for rich people just a few years ago with the help of the idiots Sinema and Manchin. Two people no longer welcome in the Democratic Party

Reagan, Bush and Trump cut taxes for wealthy people. All Republicans 
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GP obviously hates women because he has never been with one. They ignore him because he is so incompetent with women. He thinks they are all bitches who want to be raped.

Raheem J. Kassam (born 1 August 1986)[1] is a British political activist, former editor-in-chief of Breitbart News London, and former chief adviser to former UK Independence Party (UKIP) leader Nigel Farage.[2] He has been described as far-right[3][4][5] and right-wing[6] by several media publications. Kassam formerly ran in the party's November 2016 leadership election before dropping out of the race on 31 October 2016.[7] He is the former global editor-in-chief of Human Events and most recently became the editor-in-chief of The National Pulse.[8]

In July 2019, the Australian Labor Party called for Kassam to be banned from entering the country. Shadow Home Affairs Minister Senator Kristina Keneally said "We should not allow career bigots — a person who spreads hate speech about Muslims, about women, about gay and lesbian people — to enter our country with the express intent of undermining equity and equality."[27]

Only a full blown loser would look to this guy for political opinions.



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Right, so Lisa Birnbach remembered the alleged rape that didn't even happen to her, but not Carrol. Makes sense in cult world.

 He thinks they are all bitches who want to be raped.
That's what Carol thinks. She even called rape "sexy" on CNN.

COOPER: I think most people think of rape as a -- it is a violent assault. It is not --

CARROLL: I think most people think of rape as being sexy.

COOPER: Let's take a short break --

CARROLL: They think of the fantasies.

COOPER: We're going to take a quick break. If you can stick around we'll talk more on the other side.

CARROLL: You're fascinating to talk to.

CARROLL: I called my friend right away. And one of the first things she said to me is: E. Jean, stop laughing, this is not funny.

COOPER: You were laughing when you described it to her?

CARROLL: I was laughing as soon as she got on the phone apparently. I don't remember it.

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That's what Carol thinks. She even called rape "sexy" on CNN.
That’s a lie. You lie every day, just like Trump.

She said some people think of rape as some kind of sexual fantasy. As a very lonely guy, I’m sure you are familiar with rape fantasy porn. Right loser?

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That's what Carol thinks. She even called rape "sexy" on CNN
I mean, if you have to lie this much, that already means you are wrong.
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Lol, some people really like to champion weird people with wild theories about "sexy rapes"

Weirdo see, weirdo do.
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"Who cares if you are suffering? I don't have to think about those kinds of things.
Well, am I supposed to cry because you arent allowed to have a civil war?
Civil war? Let's remember the context:

[GreyParrot] Why do you support a broken system?
You answered "Hey it doesn't hurt me" (Yet, wait for it)

BUT by answering the question in that way you implied that you had ceded it was a broken system. You just didn't because it wasn't broken for you. (more likely you are too naive to see where this is headed, it's broken for everybody)

So now you say "well am I supposed to cry because you aren't allowed to have a civil war?"

The only reason civil war is coming this way is because too many people like you are supporting a broken system. So yes you should cry, because you're causing a civil war.


And how does a guy who supports bestiality end up in a Christian party?
By being able chew gum and walk at the same time (don't actually like gum).

The Christians happen to want the same things I want (to avoid a global takeover by digital fascists). Same is true of the nationalists. I haven't a nationalist bone in my body, but the nation state is an impediment to globalizing culture so the deep state is anti-nationalist (except when they need you to fight, then it's Ukraine stickers everywhere "greatest country in history", "how dare you question sovereignty that was established by whim after WW2"


Like, which part of you thought "oh these guys are gonna love me"?
Look, I know this isn't something you're going to be able to comprehend easily, but you should try: I decide who to support or oppose based on truth and morality. I discover truth and morality with logic and evidence. Nowhere in that philosophy is a magic box that guarantees everything I say will be loved by everyone.

It would be nice if people loved me, but I don't choose my ideas based on how it will ingratiate myself to others.

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Is someone who lives all alone since his mother died and has never been with a woman a weirdo?