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@Best.Korea
Its not really a big deal nor a significant argument against democratic party.
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@Greyparrot
Why do you always troll with links without text?
No one is going to open your links and waste time refuting them.
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@Best.Korea
It's not for you. Stop thinking narcissism is a positive trait.
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@Best.Korea
5 year olds only transition in a sense of wearing specific clothes and make up, and being called the way they want to be called.
Yeah just create a path for them to take puberty blockers at 12 and cut their dick off at 16, instead of gently persuading them elsewhere and rebuilding their self esteem so they don't think they need to become somebody else.
Its not really a big deal nor a significant argument against democratic party.
Th moral decay of society is a great argument against Democrats and as you can see a very effective one at persuading people who would have otherwise voted democrat to vote Republican.
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@ponikshiy
Yeah just create a path for them to take puberty blockers at 12 and cut their dick off at 16,
I dont detect an argument.
Am I supposed to join you in conversation where you complain about how you cant tell other people what to do with their bodies?
Is that it?
Oh its so bad that you have to respect someone's private choice. Lets cry.
instead of gently persuading them elsewhere and rebuilding their self esteem so they don't think they need to become somebody else.
I dont see why would you do that.
Do you feel like you need to control people and manage their lives?
Because we know from historical evidence that any time Christians manage other people's lives, they just mostly make them worse.
Th moral decay of society is a great argument against Democrats
Anyone thinking republicans arent morally decayed really should just be laughed at.
Am I supposed to join you in conversation where you complain about how you cant tell other people what to do with their bodies?
Minors cannot legally consent to to anything. Your argument is dead.
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@Greyparrot
Am I supposed to join you in conversation where you complain about how you cant tell other people what to do with their bodies?Your argument is dead.
That was a pearl clutching excuse to not argue, not an argument. DOA I guess.
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@Best.Korea
I dont see why would you do that.
We are talking about a child. If you don't see why I am saying we should build up the self esteem of a child than you need Jesus.
You can call religion a crutch if you want to, but clearly you struggle with ethics if you would Stan idly by why your child has low self esteem
GP already provided a rebuttal for th rest
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@Greyparrot
Minors cannot legally consent to to anything.
And from this fact you draw which logical conclusion?
That anything child wants should be forbidden?
That anything affecting children should be banned?
I dont even need to say it takes a really weak mind to have as much inconsistency as yours is able to produce.
[Best.Korea] I dont even need to say it takes a really weak mind to have as much inconsistency as yours is able to produce.
I don't need to say that someone who participates in vicious slander because he can't win an argument isn't in the position to mentor.
Note the "participates", said person doesn't even have the originality to expose himself as an intellectual toddler with his own fallacies, rather all he can manage is to parrot an intellectual toddler like a lobotomized valley girl.
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@ponikshiy
We are talking about a child.
Is this a child you own?
If you don't see why I am saying we should build up the self esteem of a child than you need Jesus.
So you assume that you will build self esteem of a child if you bother it until it gives way to your will?
You can call religion a crutch if you want to, but clearly you struggle with ethics if you would Stan idly by why your child has low self esteem
I dont have children.
Having children is immoral.
Only immoral people have children and desire to manage their lives according to parent's will, acting like you are raising an obedient monkey and not a thinker.
So it is of no great surprise that most children from religious families are obedient monkeys.
I even gave a chance to Christianity.
I argued for it.
I believed in it.
I almost got banned because I followed Jesus's command of hating gays.
And other than few funny moments, the Christianity has nothing.
Its a nonsense which survived for long because idiots believe in nonsense.
@ADreamOfLiberty
Dont defend greyparrot.
If he cant defend himself or his arguments, then really, he wont profit from you helping him all the time.
He needs to learn to do it on his own, and he cant do that if you wont let him do that.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
Having children is immoral.
Another instance of the laws of Darwin being vindicated.
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@ponikshiy
GP already provided a rebuttal for the rest
Thanks maam
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@Greyparrot
Another instance of the laws of Darwin being vindicated
Yes, but thats not the topic.
If your point is that one should be immoral and have children just so that immorality survives, you can start a topic about that.
But I think this topic is really derailed enough at this point.
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@Greyparrot
I see that you ran away from defending your argument, which is typical for you.
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@Best.Korea
So you assume that you will build self esteem of a child if you bother it until it gives way to your will?
No, that is a strawman.
I almost got banned because I followed Jesus's command of hating gays.
Jesus commands his followers to love homosexuals. You know better
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@Best.Korea
immorality survives..
Objective morality is one that survives. What you just said is incoherent.
The main reason why the civilizations that practiced ritual child sacrifice are no longer around is because their moral code was unfit for propagation of the species. With the death of the species goes the moral code.
@ADreamOfLibertyDont defend greyparrot.
I'm not defending greyparrot I'm expressing my contempt for you.
If he cant defend himself or his arguments, then really, he wont profit from you helping him all the time.
Worry about yourself. You owe a lot money for defamation after all ;)
He needs to learn to do it on his own, and he cant do that if you wont let him do that.
He will only waste his time trying to talk to you, not that I'm stopping him from trying.
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@ponikshiy
No, that is a strawman
Thats what you claimed.
That you will build self esteem of a child by convincing it that it shouldnt be what it wants to be.
I already explained that Christians are not really best at building self esteem of others, nor do they know what the word means.
Jesus commands his followers to love homosexuals. You know better
And yet his followers in his name talked against homosexuals?
Only in Christianity, the word "love" means "attack you until you do as I say".
There is no love in Christianity.
Christians dont love anyone.
They just abuse and provoke.
And then, when the world hates them because of their annoying nature, they think world hates them because they are good.
You actually have to have layers of delusion to not see how Christians are destroying themselves and others,
But religion has delusion as one of its premises:
"No, its silly to ask for proof."
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@Greyparrot
Objective morality is one that survives.
That would be your assumption, where you assume that survival determines whats good.
Survival doesnt determine whats good.
Survival just determines who survives.
It still follows that even if I dont survive, if I consider reproduction bad, reproduction is bad according to my standard.
Even if my standard doesnt survive, it is still better than your standard, because morally best people are morally best even if evil people kill them and only evil people remain.
Even non-existent society is better than this society.
It does not take great thinking to conclude that evil survived up until today, so by your logic, any evil that survived till this day is actually good.
The main reason why the civilizations that practiced ritual child sacrifice are no longer around is because their moral code was unfit for propagation of the species. With the death of the species goes the moral code
Yes.
And you assume your moral code is good because it existed for longer?
So rapists who survive till this day are morally justified because they survived and managed to increase their numbers?
Its interesting how Christianity always ends up justifying rape.
@ADreamOfLiberty,
I'm not defending greyparrot I'm expressing my contempt for you.
And you assume your contempt affects me somehow?
Its like you are angry at me for some reason.
You blocked me, but still respond to me even when I am not even talking to you.
Oh well.
And you assume your contempt affects me somehow?
You give your opinions, do you think they affect others somehow?
Its like you are angry at me for some reason.
I guess it will just take a bigger brain than you've got to figure it out. Not like it has been (and will continue to be) pasted all over the place.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
I guess it will just take a bigger brain than you've got to figure it out. Not like it has been (and will continue to be) pasted all over the place.
yep.
@adreamofliberty
You give your opinions, do you think they affect others somehow?
Probably. I assume there are normal people who like what I say.
Do you think that there are normal people who like what you say?
But that doesnt really answer my original question to you.
You dodged once.
Do you think that your contempt affects me somehow?
Common, answer it this time.
Or is the answer too painful?
I guess it will just take a bigger brain than you've got to figure it out. Not like it has been (and will continue to be) pasted all over the place
You are still on with the copy paste...
It seems that your contempt affects your life much more than mine.
Personally, I have been insulted many times in life, but it never occured to me to go around copy pasting about it.
Like, you are putting effort into something which looks more like a joke than an actual comeback.
And all because of that one little indirect insult...
Oh well, I probably shouldnt have triggered you so hard to make you copy paste all over the place.
Contrary to the popular belief, I do have empathy towards you.
I dont consider you my equal, obviously, but I dont really want you to be suffering this much either.
So what if you promoted civil war and total destruction of society?
It doesnt mean you should be treated this badly.
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@Greyparrot
yep.
Still no argument from you?
Do you think that your contempt affects me somehow?
I think it does, but I would express it even if it didn't.
Personally, I have been insulted many times in life, but it never occured to me to go around copy pasting about it.
It also apparently didn't occur to you to not lie about others in the desperate need to insult them.
@ADreamOfLiberty
I think it does, but I would express it even if it didn't
Well, its great to be you.
Now, I think our little contest in recent time has gone a bit too far, so here it goes.
I am ending the insult war.
You can insult me, but I wont insult you anymore, as really, its no longer funny as it was at the start,
And I dont really wanna be spending the time trading insults with you when I have research to do.
So there you have it.
Now we can have peace.
Now we can have peace.
You have brought peace and security to your new empire?
How about you retract your slanderous lies against GP and myself. Let me know if you need to see the list again.
You have brought peace and security to your new empire?
Yes.
How about you retract your slanderous lies against GP and myself.
I retract all my lies about GP and you.