Trump policy to separate children from their parents is condemned by judge

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Before the low-energy trolls
I am not low-energy troll.

I drink plenty of Red Bull.

I am energy now.
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You are outnumbered by the low-energy trolls. This is why America can't be great.
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The Federal Govt has never done anything to me except confiscate my wealth and make earning a living progressively harder each passing year. I have done my best to compensate against its never ending tyranny and have succeeded in many ways. Its my children they are flushing down the toilet and don't have a fucking chance in hell at any kind of financial success or anyone under 30 for that matter. I tried to warn of the coming financial collapse but was only mocked. That's OK I wont have to live in their fucked up poverty world, I'll be long dead. Faith in govt is for delusional suckers.
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 Its my children they are flushing down the toilet and don't have a fucking chance in hell at any kind of financial success
I told you that spanking doesnt work, but you didnt listen.

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You have the intellect of a downs syndrome baby.
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The left, indoctrinated imbeciles. The right, indoctrinated imbeciles. Me trying to predict the outcome and result of each issue that the imbeciles on the left and the right propose to impose and make worse.
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You have the intellect of a downs syndrome baby.
You told us that you spank your kids, then let them play video games all day.

Thats not how you raise Einsteins. Thats how you raise people who cannot be financially successful.

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I don't think B.K has eyes that slant upward, a single crease across his palm, and a large gap between his first and second toes.
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When he won the Nobel Prize in 1922, he turned over the interest on the money to Mileva. The prize was worth about $32,000.

By Einstein's own later account, his marriage to Elsa became one of convenience as he pursued a number of love affairs with young women. In the 1920's, Einstein and Mileva achieved a reconciliation of sorts. ''You have proved that you know what you are doing,'' he wrote her after a vacation with the children in 1921. Their letters show a mutual concern about his own bad health, about Hans Albert's search for a job, and about Eduard, who was gradually descending into mental illness.

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Trump granted 237 acts of clemency during his four years in the White House, including 143 pardons and 94 commutations.
Which is the prerogative of every single person who sits in the Office of the President.

Pointing this out serves no legitimate purpose other than to state the obvious, Captain Obvious.
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Biden has granted 12 pardons so far in his presidency.
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Probably sold them for a lot of money. That's 12 big spenders. For the big guy.

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Why do you keep posting this guy? Do you seriously get your information from him?

I watched about half this video before deciding it was too stupid to continue. He actually sat there explaining that the reason why inflation is so high is because of Obama and Biden's military spending which is why we should all vote for Trump, cause according to him, everyone else wants war while Trump wants peace.

He of course neglected to mention that Trump blew up the military budget even higher than the Pentagon asked for, this after Obama dramatically decreased military spending.

It's just a flat out lie, and is that much more remarkable given the fact that he's acknowledging that inflation is caused by printing money which is caused by ruining federal deficits and acknowledging that Trump blew up our deficits as well, yet still pretends Trump is the anti inflation president.

The dishonesty and stupidity of this show is breathtaking, why do you listen to him?
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That's fine. You can explain your own reasons for why Biden is losing in every swing state according to the CNN poll, making it impossible to win. 

Personally, his opening 14 second clip with the girl in it was pretty persuasive.
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Tim Pool was born in Chicago in 1986. He dropped out of school in 2000 when he was 14 years old.  He never attended college at all.
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is because of Obama and Biden's military spending 
You of course neglected to mention the part where the government prints money to fund the payments to the military industrial complex. That makes what Pool says less insane.
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military spending....
I am going to assume your chart does not include all the special foreign aid payments for military operations. Probably a safe assumption.

https://watson.brown.edu/costsofwar/costs/economic/budget the actual costs of Obama's wars plus Biden's wars is pretty high if you add it all up.
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That's fine. You can explain your own reasons for why Biden is losing in every swing state according to the CNN poll, making it impossible to win. 
Because of people like you listening to people like this. It's not hard.

Personally, his opening 14 second clip with the girl in it was pretty persuasive.
Persuasive of what? Are you serious?

All she did was complain that her Chipotle bowl was expensive. No shit. So what? What exactly is that proving?

You of course neglected to mention the part where the government prints money to fund the payments to the military industrial complex. That makes what Pool says less insane.
No, it doesn't. The government prints money when it spends more than it takes in. It doesn't matter where the spending goes, which is why it's so silly and dishonest to single out one peice of one category of the budget and pretend that one peice is somehow impacting inflation more than the rest of it.

the actual costs of Obama's wars plus Biden's wars is pretty high if you add it all up.
Can you, without showing yourself to be a complete partisan hack, explain what Obama's wars and Biden's wars mean and why neither Trump nor Bush is included in your overview?

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The data I posted included the Iraq war. I don't feel the need to entertain your paranoid projections about partisanship since you know I am not a Republican.
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All she did was complain that her Chipotle bowl was expensive. No shit. So what? What exactly is that proving?
It's this kind of dismissive hand-waving in the spirit of Marie Antoinette that will be the tragedy of the Democrat party. 
The people want fixes, not excuses. That also includes Democrats in New York.

Because of people like you listening to people like this. It's not hard.
Everyone engages in confirmation bias, including me. I do listen to alternate points, but in the end, logical questions need to be addressed, and the elite MSM isn't asking any relevant question lately. That makes them a non-starter for information.
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This is a great example of the media not asking relevant questions anymore that the public demands from a free press.
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The data I posted included the Iraq war. I don't feel the need to entertain your paranoid projections about partisanship since you know I am not a Republican.
The video you posted in support of your claims is entirely partisan, and you have nothing to offer this website except right wing criticisms of the left. It isn't paranoia, it's an observation, and quite an obvious one at that. 

All she did was complain that her Chipotle bowl was expensive. No shit. So what? What exactly is that proving?
It's this kind of dismissive hand-waving in the spirit of Marie Antoinette that will be the tragedy of the Democrat party. 
Dismissive hand waiving? You called the video persuasive, didn't bother to explain what it was persuasive of, then when challenged to explain your comment accuse me of dismissiveness. That's absurd.

Do you have an answer to my question or not? Please stop with the silly little postering, this is a debate website not a political campaign.


This is a great example of the media not asking relevant questions anymore that the public demands from a free press.
This is an example of the Trump effect; where politicians have learned that instead of addressing questions which are absolutely relevant they can instead just attack the media and people like you will cheer them on. I remember a time when answering questions was expected.

In Trump we have an individual who has already tried to overturn an election to stay in power, incited a violent riot against the US Capitol, refused to lift a finger to stop the riot for 3 hours while watching the entire thing on TV, promised to be his supporters "retribution", mused openly about jailing his political opponents, fawns over every dictator on the planet while attacking every Democraticly elected leader, and said out loud in front of an entire crowd that he planned to "be a dictator on day one".

And when this very man now running again for president stands up in front of a crowd and uses the word "vermin" to describe his political opposition, the exact same language used by Hitler and Mussolini for clear and obvious reasons, it is relevant to the decision we will soon have in front of us whether this kind of language is acceptable and how we should view the use of this language given the context of our political climate.

But what does Ramaswamy do? Pretend that it's just a word and therefore not relevant to anything. As if the words a politician speaks just don't matter. As if the ideas politicians communicate to us is done by some other means without using words.

It's just plain stupid, and it's incredibly scary to think so many out there really are buying this nonsense.
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It's just plain stupid, and it's incredibly scary to think so many out there really are buying this nonsense.
Lol, because anyone, not just Trump, using the word Vermin is the most evil person you can imagine. That's totally sane and not nonsense. And if it's exclusive to only Trump out of 8 billion people, that's also sane and not nonsense.

If the public wanted to hear Trumpmanbad instead of questions about the future of the USA, then MSM and Biden's ratings would reflect that.

Spoiler: they do not.
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Which is the prerogative of every single person who sits in the Office of the President.
Pointing this out serves no legitimate purpose other than to state the obvious
Trump is soft on crime. And soft in general with a big, fat soft belly.

I thought you said you weren’t going to respond to my posts anymore 
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Everyone engages in confirmation bias, including me. I do listen to alternate points, but in the end, logical questions need to be addressed, and the elite MSM isn't asking any relevant question lately. That makes them a non-starter for information.

The people want fixes, not excuses. That also includes Democrats in New York.
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Lol, because anyone, not just Trump, using the word Vermin is the most evil person you can imagine. That's totally sane and not nonsense. And if it's exclusive to only Trump out of 8 billion people, that's also sane and not nonsense.
In my last post I laid out in detail Trump's history including many of the things he has done, the context in which the word vermin was used and how the context of the entire situation is what made it relevant to our current state of politics. Your response is to continue as if I didn't say any of the things I said, that Trump didn't do any of the things he did, pretend we're still talking about the usage of a single word in isolation, and insinuate that because of your made up scenario, it's me who can't see straight.

Trump derangement syndrome means exactly what you think it does, it does not apply to the people you think it does.

Here's a basic lesson in communication and critical thinking. When someone says or does something, as thinking agents we do two things; first we assess it, then we note it for future assessment. When it comes to assessing someone's words or actions the way we do that is by looking at previous examples of things they have said and done, and then putting all together to paint a clear picture of what the latest example means.

So when Joe Biden falls off a bike, or repeatedly falls as he walks up the stairs, in isolation these instances mean absolutely nothing. However when combined with your typical Fox news supercut of every gaffe he's ever made, a picture can be painted that these instances are part of a bigger problem. An example of how this works is to take a look at how much time has been spent on right wing media airing Biden's falls, while of course completely ignoring when Tommy Tuberville took a tumble about a week or so ago. You see, he doesn't come with the same cognitive baggage built over previous examples, so with him the same exact thing is not an issue.

So now that I've taught you the very basics of how assessing people works, would you like to reply to my previous post while taking your newfound wisdom into account?
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 When someone says or does something, as thinking agents we do two things; first we assess it, then we note it for future assessment. 
Lol, Trump literally called fascists "vermin"

Your fake outrage over context needs to be channeled toward MSM that removed all context from that word in a sentence.

 a picture can be painted that these instances are part of a bigger problem.
I don't watch Fox. Don't care about their well-funded narrative artwork, nor do I really care about Biden becoming old and useless. I care about what that girl said in her clip, like most other sane Americans. The one you hand-waved away as nonsense.
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 would you like to reply to my previous post while taking your newfound wisdom into account?
Everyone engages in confirmation bias, including me. I do listen to alternate points, but in the end, logical questions need to be addressed, and the elite MSM isn't asking any relevant question lately. That makes them a non-starter for information.

The people want fixes, not excuses. That also includes Democrats in New York.


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Lol, Trump literally called fascists "vermin"

Your fake outrage over context needs to be channeled toward MSM that removed all context from that word in a sentence.
Again, context matters. Not just the context you find convenient, which BTW was crafted by Trump just so that people like you could parrot his nonsense which is exactly what you're doing here.

First of all, there is only one fascist movement in the United States, and Trump is leading it. This is part of Trump's game: accuse the other side of doing everything you're actually trying to do, that way people get confused and disillusioned with politics causing them to throw their hands up and walk away, thereby paving the way for you to accomplish the very thing you pretend to be fighting against. This is a tired old tactic that fascists have been using for centuries.

Second, if you take the entire picture into account, Trump is clearly talking about the people he views as his political advasaries, which is clearly the democrats. This is the other game Trump plays which you eat up; brand your political advasaries as evil and launch vauge attacks against them on that basis. Then, when they take issue with your attacks it becomes a silly little game of 'heads I win tails you lose',
  • they either respond by arguing that they are not what you allege, thereby putting themselves on the defense (which is always politically toxic) against your meritless attacks
  • Or they attack you for what you were obviously doing, at which point you get to pretend their objections are really admissions that your branding of them is accurate
It never ceases to amaze me how perfectly you carry water for such an obvious conman. The democrats are not Marxists, communists, or fascists, but that's what Trump has been calling them for years. So when he attacks Marxists, communists and fascists, he is in fact talking about the democrats regardless of how stupid of a label that is to apply to them. Everyone in the crowd knew this, please stop pretending you didn't.

I don't watch Fox. Don't care about their well-funded narrative artwork
The people you keep posting as support for your claims are making all of the same fallacious arguments as Fox news. Doesn't matter whether you watch them, you are in fact getting much of your wory view from them or at the very least from the same people they are.

I care about what that girl said in her clip, like most other sane Americans. The one you hand-waved away as nonsense.
I didn't waive away her concerns, you continue to lie because you know you have no leg to stand on.

I waived away the conclusion you say you reached from her video that you wouldn't bother to share, but insinuate that it is Biden's fault Chipotle is expensive. We've beaten that argument to death. You will continue to pretend that Biden and Biden alone is responsible for all of our inflation for passing a bill which wasn't paid for even though we've been doing it repeatedly for decades, and you make that case while disregarding the real world circumstances of his decisions as if he is solely responsible for the state of the economy he inherited.

Our discussion here will continue to go no where because all you do is throw stones while offering absolutely nothing as an alternative.

logical questions need to be addressed
Responded to this in detail and you have been engaging in that particular conversation ever since. I don't know why you keep repeating this post as if we aren't way down that road already.