This argument is not supposed to outline United States today, it is to argue on the original intent of the founding fathers, and that they were indeed as we say today- "Racist".
The first immigration act limited immigration to quote "free white men"
Laws existed so White Americans will not miscegenation.
Thomas Jefferson
".... It will probably be asked, Why not retain and incorporate the blacks into the state, and thus save the expense of supplying, by importation of white settlers, the vacancies they will leave? Deep rooted prejudices entertained by the whites; ten thousand recollections, by the blacks, of the injuries they have sustained; new provocations; the real distinctions which nature has made; and many other circumstances, will divide us into parties, and produce convulsions, which will probably never end but in the extermination of the one or the other race..."
James Madison on Equality
"To be consistent with existing and probably unalterable prejudices in the U. S. the freed blacks ought to be permanently removed beyond the region occupied by or allotted to a White population. The objections to a thorough incorporation of the two people are, with most of the Whites insuperable; and are admitted by all of them to be very powerful. If the blacks, strongly marked as they are by Physical & lasting peculiarities, be retained amid the Whites, under the degrading privation of equal rights political or social, they must be always dissatisfied with their condition as a change only from one to another species of oppression; always secretly confederated agst. the ruling & privileged class; and always uncontroulled by some of the most cogent motives to moral and respectable conduct. The character of the free blacks, even where their legal condition is least affected by their colour, seems to put these truths beyond question. It is material also that the removal of the blacks be to a distance precluding the jealousies & hostilities to be apprehended from a neighboring people stimulated by the contempt known to be entertained for their peculiar features; to say nothing of their vindictive recollections, or the predatory propensities which their State of Society might foster..."
Ben Franklin
"Which leads me to add one Remark: That the Number of purely white People in the World is proportionably very small. All Africa is black or tawny. Asia chiefly tawny. America (exclusive of the new Comers) wholly so. And in Europe, the Spaniards, Italians, French, Russians and Swedes, are generally of what we call a swarthy Complexion; as are the Germans also, the Saxons only excepted, who with the English, make the principal Body of White People on the Face of the Earth. I could wish their Numbers were increased."
In answer, I say, that, at the time I drew that constitution, I perfectly knew that there did not then exist such a thing in the Union as a black or colored citizen, nor could I then have conceived it possible such a thing could have ever existed in it; nor, notwithstanding all that has been said on the subject, do I now believe one does exist in it."
To conclude, this is not written in support of the policies of our founding fathers, but an acknowledgement of their beliefs and what they wanted the future of this nation to be
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Vote Reported: Bazza97125 // Mod Action: Removed
Points awarded: 1 point to pro
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[Pounding on door]
Hold on a minute.
MAN IN HALL: What the fuck?
JIMMY: Hold on a fuckin' minute!
[Hip-hop music stops suddenly]
[Hip-hop beat from other room]
[Vomiting]
[Pounding on door]
MAN IN HALL: Yo, what the fuck?
Quit playing with your fucking self!
Open the door!
Fuck, man.
Who the fuck is you, nigga?
Where are you going?
-Backstage. I'm in the battle.
-You can't.
-I got a stamp on my hand
No. I'm at New Detro
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That extra post was just providing a little bit information to clarify what was good and bad about the vote - it isn’t a second attempt to moderate the vote.
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>Reported Vote: Our_boat_is_right // Mod action: Not Removed
>Points Awarded: win to con.
>Reason for Decision: Con proves that the original laws, despite the perception that some people or things were racist, was not founded as a white nation. He proves many things to be irrelevant, such as things like after the foundation of the country in later years, and things that had no affect on the founding documents and laws.
>Reason for Mod Action: This vote is border line, and as such is sufficient.
What is sufficient: the voter appears to reference all the main arguments made by both sides, and appears to explain why one side won with regards to the arguments being made.
What is insufficient: the voter appears to be overly brief, and doesn’t appear to explicitly reference pros arguments.
What makes this border line: reading the debate, it seems relatively clear what the voter is referring to, and it appears to cover the broad aspects of the debate - even though its brief. To make the vote sufficient I think the voter would likely not need to modify reasoning significantly (if at all), but only to add semantics such as “pro said..” and “this refuted pros argument that...” for that reason the vote is allowed.
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Vote Reported: Our_Boat_is_Right // Mod Action: Not Removed
Reason for mod action: The vote was borderline. By default, borderline votes are ruled to be sufficient.
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He is gorgeous! ... Glad someone caught that snippet.
Tom Hiddleston XD XD
Nice catch. If you haven't already, I strongly advise reading the Bonus History Lesson (it's great fuel for mocking people later).
'Principles of Equality' ------ race based slavery... seems legit.
Yeah
Voting can be tricky. I honestly haven't gotten used to the requirements here, I am used to a much lower standard of voter BoP (make it clear you read the debate, and are not voting just as a game of who/what you like). I'd call voting here a trinity system, which isn't bad, it just isn't what I'm used to.
Yeah, I would vote but it my privilege got took away, this is a easy win.
Thanks.
I rarely do the professional sourcing, but due to my history with neo-nazis I like to put their ideals down with prejudice.
Good R1
I suppose.
Now it is, but that wasn't really the case back then
It's one thing to call out how the US has strayed away from principal values, but to call it a "white nation" is very wrong. America is a nation for all races and religions