Instigator / Pro
25
1432
rating
8
debates
12.5%
won
Topic
#902
Have both political parties become too extreme?
Status
Finished
The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.
Winner & statistics
After 12 votes and with 59 points ahead, the winner is...
Sparrow
Parameters
- Publication date
- Last updated date
- Type
- Standard
- Number of rounds
- 4
- Time for argument
- Three days
- Max argument characters
- 30,000
- Voting period
- Six months
- Point system
- Multiple criterions
- Voting system
- Open
Contender / Con
84
1495
rating
47
debates
48.94%
won
Description
Debate me.
Round 1
Let's begin. I will start with liberals, then I will critique conservative, okay? most liberals tend to be anti-Christian, anti-free speech, anti-Israel, and antichoice about gun ownership. Conservatives: Feed it once it's born, or don't call yourself prolife, stop torturing people, stop the illegal wars, and don't criminalize drug addiction. Please address my points.
most liberals tend to be anti-Christian
That is an unsubstantiated generalization.
anti-free speech
That is an unsubstantiated generalization.
anti-Israel
That is an unsubstantiated generalization. Also why is that necessarily bad?
antichoice about gun ownership
What does that even mean? There are liberals who want to ban all guns and liberals who agree with conservatives on that particular issue, and everything in between.
Feed it once it's born, or don't call yourself prolife
I wasn't aware that starving babies was a common practice among conservatives.
stop torturing people
torturing who, and in what ways? Do you see the problem with making these huge, sweeping generalizations about what the majority of people support within a certain ideology? There are those that take it too far and those who don't, how do you determine when the party or ideology itself is becoming too extreme?
stop the illegal wars
Which ones?
don't criminalize drug addiction.
You don't think making it illegal to possess certain substances will help curtail their abuse?
Round 2
Forfeited
There is no basis for the assertion that both parties have become too extreme because people with varying views and degrees of extremity exist within each party.
Round 3
Forfeited
Extend
Round 4
Forfeited
Forfeited
8
Criterion Pro Tie Con Points
Better arguments ✗ ✗ ✔ 3 points
Better sources ✗ ✗ ✔ 2 points
Better spelling and grammar ✗ ✗ ✔ 1 point
Better conduct ✗ ✗ ✔ 1 point
Reason: Pro forfeited all but first round, never even got around to dissing conservatives. As PF8 would say, "That's poor conduct!"
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You sure that type1 and sparrow are the same person? If the mods who have access to IP codes deny it, then I have to side with those who have the information.
Wow type1 actually made a pretty decent argument.
Never thought I'd see the day...
I'm sure you won't use it but I felt this was an interesting video on this topic specifically. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6grXCooL3-M
I'm not generally a fan of Tim Pool due to his repetitive videos and titles but the graphs displayed in this one are quite interesting. The republicans have shifted slightly while the democrats have swung WAY further to the left.
To address the right wing points, a kid should be dependent on their parents, not the government. If the parents don't want the kids, they can set the kid up for adoption, where in the long term, it would be adopted by a family that has the ability to take care of the child without welfare. To the best of my knowledge, conservatives don't torture people. The wars that the US fights in the middle east are to keep ISIS at bay. I support legalizing weed.
The far left has the young turks and buzzfeed. All the alt right has is Steve Bannon and Richard Spencer and they're not influential.
The right has, I'm not sure about the left.
The left has. I'm not sure about the right.