Instigator / Con
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1461
rating
4
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Topic
#893
Universal Morals exist within society
Status
Finished
The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.
Winner & statistics
After 6 votes and with 31 points ahead, the winner is...
Barney
Parameters
- Publication date
- Last updated date
- Type
- Standard
- Number of rounds
- 5
- Time for argument
- Three days
- Max argument characters
- 30,000
- Voting period
- Two weeks
- Point system
- Multiple criterions
- Voting system
- Open
Contender / Pro
42
1815
rating
53
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Description
Universal Morals are a philosophical debate dating around as old as True Altruism. So, today's debate follows whether or not there exists a Universal Moral. If so, the Affirmative must provide this evidence and moral, while the Negation (Me), will debate otherwise.
Round 1
Forfeited
Due to my opponent forfeiting, I am going to keep this brief...
Human Society:
Society is the voluntary groupings of people with a shared goal. In the USA we often boil it down to “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.” Every member of society seeks to maximize the value derived from those three things. The form varies, and the level of important to each varies, but the morals at the heart do not.
Evil:
Those who oppose societal universal morals (rapists, terrorists, people of whichever political party you are opposed, etc.), are not true members of society, thus do not invalidate anything.
Human Society:
Society is the voluntary groupings of people with a shared goal. In the USA we often boil it down to “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.” Every member of society seeks to maximize the value derived from those three things. The form varies, and the level of important to each varies, but the morals at the heart do not.
Those who oppose societal universal morals (rapists, terrorists, people of whichever political party you are opposed, etc.), are not true members of society, thus do not invalidate anything.
Round 2
There is no such thing as A Universal Moral, that exists in Society. No matter what, there is always something to an acceptable reason behind what would normally be against morals, such as murder, that would be accepted in other society's. Whether that be Religion, Utilitarianism, or law, there is always something keeping Universal Morals from being truly Universal. As stated in the Description, I would like to see my opponent start with a Universal Moral and debate from there.
One thing, Keep in mind that Universal means within all Societies. Not just within American, but also all of Asia, Europe, Africa, Australia, And all countries within. The Affirmative must prove that there is a Universal Moral within all these Societies to win.
Note: My opening case has been entirely dropped. So extend points.
Definitions:
These are taken from the short description written by my
opponent, and visible on the debate listings page.
Universal Morals: Morals that are generally accepted within all society's.Morals: A decision to tell between right from wrong.
Further, morals stem
from values, and the terms are often used interchangeably. By the agreed definitions
above, if people would consider violation of a value to be wrong, they have
violated a moral; and if that being wrong is generally accepted by all societies,
it is a universal moral.
Non-Extinction (nukes):
Yeah, I’m pulling
the nuclear option (pun intended).
Stemming from the
value of collectivism,
we have the clear moral that seeking the extinction of our species would be
wrong. Further, we have given men countless opportunities via nuclear weapons, no
one has used the easy tool to make threat against this moral.
With thousands of nuclear
detonations, there have been only two atomic bombs used against human
targets, and both were strategically to save
lives. Right now 40
countries are known to have access to a total of nearly 14,000 of the weapons,
but the societies in each impose ethical restrictions which has successfully prevented them from being used to cause death.
Any countries that
can be named without access, have specifically chosen not to successfully
develop the technology. Bear in mind, they’ve had almost a century to do so,
and pocket watches now possess more computing power than was needed for the
original weapons development.
Round 3
Forfeited
Unchallenged
Universal Morals:
- Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness (yes, that's just one)
- Non-Extinction
Round 4
Due to recent, uncalled events in my life, I'm sorry to say I can not continue the debate. I'm sorry for the inconvenience, and wish to you that we can do this debate again soon.
Also, because I have a character limit:
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No worries, I hope everything is either is okay or becomes so again soon.
Round 5
Forfeited
My opponent conceded, so you all know how to vote.
Not looking too good so far.
Hope this debate goes somewhere