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Curlyhairkid

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#881

I believe in the regulation of firearms! Change My Mind?

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The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

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After 4 votes and with 16 points ahead, the winner is...

Our_Boat_is_Right

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Publication date: 05.07.2019 11:33PM
Last updated date: 06.21.2019 03:53PM
Type: Standard
Number of rounds: 5
Time for argument: Three days
Max argument characters: 30,000
Voting period: One month
Point system: Multiple criterions
Voting system: Open

Contender / Con

Our_Boat_is_Right

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Round 1

Curlyhairkid

05.09.2019 01:14AM

Pro

An AR-15 was used to kill 17 students at Parkland High School,

-In May, 2018 a teen boy took his dads 38 caliber-revolver to kill 10 people at a Texas High School.

-90% of unintentional shootings happen by a child playing with a loaded gun in absence of parents,

-thirty-one states allow someone to carry a gun in public without a permit or license.

,when they asked criminals how they obtained the gun they used most said from a family member or a pawn shop or flee market,

if you're wondering why i listed all these statistics and events that happened is because they show why gun regulation and gun safety are important,

First we can start by saying how important it is for people to lock away their guns in safes, so children and teens can't obtain them,
Often times everyone thing gun control is abolishing guns, all we want to do is to regulate them and make sure there in the right hands, which brings me to my next point
Strong Background Checks: The Parkland shooter was reported and called multiple times to the police and was still able to buy a gun.
Before buying a gun you should be 21 and older
Making the process of being able to obtain a gun more strict by implementing things like vision tests, mental evaluations, aiming tests and safety courses.
And the banning of bump stocks, AR-15's, and maximum capacity magazines (because no one needs a automatic weapon for self defense.

What is your argument on why these things are not important? "or if you agree, then that's awesome"

Our_Boat_is_Right

05.09.2019 04:32AM

Con

First we can start by saying how important it is for people to lock away their guns in safes, so children and teens can't obtain them.

I agree. Gun safety is a top priority.

Strong Background Checks: The Parkland shooter was reported and called multiple times to the police and was still able to buy a gun.

I would like more detail on this...there are already federal background checks people have to go through to buy any gun, so what do you mean by "stricter?" In the parkland case, it is a problem with police, as the Sheriff's office got over 30 tips of this shooter and failed to act on any of them.

Before buying a gun you should be 21 and older.

Why? Almost no shootings are done by people 18-21. It deprives those people of self-defense. This is also primarily the age of college students, so people would not be able to defend themselves on campus, like girls protecting themselves from rape.

Making the process of being able to obtain a gun more strict by implementing things like vision tests, mental evaluations, aiming tests and safety courses.

There is no need for this. I agree with mental health screening. There are already safety courses for buying guns. Concealed-carry holders practice safely regularly, as they commit felonies and misdemeanors 84% LESS THAN POLICE OFFICERS!! That's how law-abiding they are.

And the banning of bump stocks, AR-15's, and maximum capacity magazines (because no one needs a automatic weapon for self defense.

Bump stocks are already illegal. An AR-15 is no more than a semi-automatic rifle, which means when you pull the trigger once, a bullet comes out. It is the same as a handgun. Semi-automatic. There are only 400 murders per year by a rifle of any kind. There are over 4x the amount of knife murders than rifles. Blunt objects and body parts are used to murder more than rifles. Banning rifles would not be an effective solution to gun violence. Also, automatic weapons have been banned since 1930. That argument is invalid.

thirty-one states allow someone to carry a gun in public without a permit or license.

And some of those are the safest states. Out of the top 10 safest states, essentially 9 you are allowed, and fairly easily to conceal or open carry. 5 of those 9, 55%, you don't even have to have a permit to carry. There may be a strong correlation between lax gun laws and low violent crime rates.

Conclusion--

I have proven banning AR-15's and different gun regulations I have argued against would not be effective in stopping gun violence.

Round 2

Curlyhairkid

05.12.2019 04:32AM

Pro

Forfeited

Our_Boat_is_Right

05.12.2019 11:18PM

Con

Extend arguments.

Round 3

Curlyhairkid

05.15.2019 11:18PM

Pro

Forfeited

Our_Boat_is_Right

05.16.2019 02:02AM

Con

someone hit the woah

Round 4

Curlyhairkid

05.19.2019 02:02AM

Pro

Forfeited

Our_Boat_is_Right

05.19.2019 05:16AM

Con

eXtEnD

Round 5

Curlyhairkid

05.22.2019 05:16AM

Pro

Forfeited

Our_Boat_is_Right

05.22.2019 03:53PM

Con

#10

extend

Alec

05.19.2019 02:06AM

#16

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@Our_Boat_is_Right

Your time to put a funny meme or vine in there. He forfeit.

Our_Boat_is_Right

05.08.2019 05:43PM

#15

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@Curlyhairkid

You started the debate so you make an argument first in the opening round. I then post an argument after you do.

Curlyhairkid

05.08.2019 05:37PM

#14

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@Our_Boat_is_Right

ok so let me here your argument?

Our_Boat_is_Right

05.08.2019 05:30PM

#13

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@Alec

I can tell from curlykid his arguments will be weak. Plz don't rebut to him in the comments because you might convince him and I want to debate him on it.

TheRealNihilist

05.08.2019 02:47PM

#12

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@Alec

If he isn't given arguments in the comments. He would be more focused on the debate at hand.

Alec

05.08.2019 02:41PM

#11

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@TheRealNihilist

As of the time of this comment, curlyhair kid has some time. Over 48 hours of it in fact.

TheRealNihilist

05.08.2019 02:28PM

#10

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@Curlyhairkid

Focus on giving an argument. It is a waste to argue in the comments of a debate when you are supposed to be debating in that very debate.

Alec

05.08.2019 12:37PM

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@Curlyhairkid

How would 5 innocent people die? I don't think innocents die from self defense. Also, lets say that thieves are threatening to rob your house. They all have pistols. If you have the bigger gun, they'll be too scared to rob your house out of fear of getting shot and killed. At the sight of your AK 47, they run away from the house. No one gets shot. No injuries. Just a prevented robbery thanks to the unshot AK 47.

Curlyhairkid

05.08.2019 12:33PM

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@Alec

lemme give you an example: Imagine your neighbor gets robbed by three thieves but he grabs his ak 47 and riddles bullets all over the house, unfortunately 5 innocent people died because your neighbor was being allowed to own a automatic rifle, even though he mightve had the best intentions

Alec

05.08.2019 11:12AM

Can you cite that?

RationalMadman

05.08.2019 04:59AM

Autistic people have the lowest crime rate and highest rate of success as detectives of any mind-type on Earth.

Alec

05.08.2019 12:24AM

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@Curlyhairkid

AK 47s defend against multiple people. Its much harder to do that with a pistol. Criminals have incentive to work in packs since they are more likely to achieve their desired result which is to steal stuff.

Alec

05.08.2019 12:22AM

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@Curlyhairkid

Do you think autistic people should be allowed to get a gun?

Curlyhairkid

05.08.2019 12:13AM

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@Brendo

@Pinkfreud08

I support the banning of bump stocks and i also support the ban of military style weapons,

Pinkfreud08

05.07.2019 11:51PM

Too what extent? Banning ALL guns or just some restrictions?

Brendo

05.07.2019 11:43PM

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@Curlyhairkid

What sort of regulations do you support. You need to add more information so other users understand the debate.

Ramshutu

06.02.2019 02:21AM

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Reason:

Full forfeit

RationalMadman

05.22.2019 08:44PM

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Reason:

All Rounds other than R1 forfeited.

K_Michael

05.22.2019 06:12PM

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Reason:

forfeit > 1/2 conduct to Con.

Pinkfreud08

05.22.2019 06:08PM

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Tie

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3 point(s)

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1 point(s)

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1 point(s)

Reason:

I would like to start off by thanking both voters for this debate

POOR CONDUCT:

Pro has forfeited the majority of the debate rounds which is a prime example of bad debate conduct

I ask for other voters to please consider this fact when voting in the conduct category as well.