Instigator / Pro
7
1466
rating
3
debates
16.67%
won
Topic
#723
Donald Trump is for the rich, not the common man
Status
Finished
The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.
Winner & statistics
After 6 votes and with 35 points ahead, the winner is...
RationalMadman
Parameters
- Publication date
- Last updated date
- Type
- Standard
- Number of rounds
- 5
- Time for argument
- Three days
- Max argument characters
- 1,200
- Voting period
- Two months
- Point system
- Multiple criterions
- Voting system
- Open
Contender / Con
42
1702
rating
574
debates
67.86%
won
Description
No information
Round 1
Forfeited
The common man voted Trump into power. You can argue he didn't but then you need to Kritik the Electoral College and explain how they are less so a representation of the common man than simply the voters themselves.
Common man is sex-specific... If we take males this is oh so less true.
For the rich of both genders? The title doesn't have a comma after 'common' meaning the 'rich' doesn't apply to 'man' but to itself. What is 'the rich'? Trump can't be for the rich since he is the rich and has out-competed many of them which means he's definitely against the rich but has provided jobs for the common man via owning and managing such businesses.
Oh I can go all day dancing around semantically like a Mayweather to Pro's Mcgregor but I'll let him have a chance, go on try define some terms or this is gonna be mine for the taking.
Round 2
Forfeited
Round 3
Forfeited
It is not the truth.
Round 4
Forfeited
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>Reported Vote: Our_Boat_is_Right // Mod action: Removed
>Points Awarded: 5 points to Pro for arguments, sources, and S/G; 1 point to Con for conduct
>Reason for Decision: i'll give pro 3 points cuz i feel bad
>Reason for Mod Action: This debate is a full forfeit debate. Per the site's voting policy, full-forfeit debates are not moderated unless the voter voted for the forfeiting side. Because the voter voted to the give the balance of points the forfeiting side, their vote has been removed.
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He got banned because he was anti-jew and spewing profanity and toxicity at other members. Look at the debate "I shouldn't have gotten banned." It lays it all out there.
I don't think that type1 should have gotten banned, even if he is a communist. RM has supported capitalism, he is about as left as Hillary Clinton is.(https://www.debateart.com/debates/424)
OK well no one takes type 1 seriously he is just a crazy lunatic, that's why he got banned. RM is pretty socialist to some degrees, he is pretty far-left.
Technically, almost everyone has left wing and right wing beliefs. RM may be a progressive, but he's no socialist. He has defended capitalism many times. Even Type1 is against Affirmative Action. I don't like the 2 party system. We should be more individualistic then that.
I probably could win both sides of this debate.
knowing u im surprised ur taking this position.
Thanks for letting me know, enjoy the read.
You do realize you are taking the con position, so you would be arguing that Trump is for the common man and not the rich?
Is RM going right wing now? He was this moderately liberal guy from DDO.
"Trump has done nothing for [the common man], despite his claim he's for the forgotten American"
The common man and the "forgotten American" are different. That's why it's "forgotten." Too many Americans are entitled jerks, expecting government aid. Government aid, I have nothing against. However, there are those who just mooch off those tax dollars and don't get themselves back on their feet ON PURPOSE, because they're lazy and take everything for granted.
The fact this is even considered a debate is worrying for the IQ and even basic coherence of the voters of the US that voted this lunatic (who openly admitted he was one, the entire campaign) into power when he promised every single thing to screw the 'trailer trash' over starting the first month in power where he altered tariffs on mining that immediately hurt blue collar jobs in the US while helping the corporations hiring them profit regardless.