Instigator / Con

Joshua_Stebold

1403

rating

debates

21.88%

won

Topic

#714

Should All Kids Learn A Music Instrument

Status

Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics

Better arguments

Better sources

Better legibility

Better conduct

After 9 votes and with 15 points ahead, the winner is...

Joshua_Stebold

Tags

Music

Parameters

Publication date: 04.07.2019 05:58AM
Last updated date: 04.25.2019 12:03PM
Type: Standard
Number of rounds: 2
Time for argument: Three days
Max argument characters: 30,000
Voting period: Two weeks
Point system: Multiple criterions
Voting system: Open

Contender / Pro

Alanwang123

1374

rating

debates

4.55%

won

Description

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Round 1

Joshua_Stebold

04.07.2019 06:13AM

Con

Hello, I shall keep my debate short and precise:

All kids shouldn't learn a musical instrument as not everybody has a passion for music. Plus, we are in the 21st Century and we have good technology, thus we can find and play music online, without needing to learn a instrument.

Alanwang123

04.08.2019 01:33PM

Pro

Yes, what you've said is quite true, Joshua_Stebold. However, learning music, according to scientific research does help students to promote craftsmanship and they also learn to want to produce good work. Finally, this also helps in their hand-eye coordination.

Round 2

Joshua_Stebold

04.11.2019 11:58AM

Con

Yes, it does help in the areas you mentioned. However, if the child does not have any passion, he or she won't develop in the ways you have mentioned.

Alanwang123

04.11.2019 12:03PM

Pro

Waiving

bsh1

04.20.2019 02:49AM

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>Reported Vote: Pinkfreud08 // Mod action: Removed

>Points Awarded: 1 point to Pro for conduct

>Reason for Decision: Con waived the last round

>Reason for Mod Action: The voter erroneously states that Con waived. In fact, Pro waived. The voter can recast a correct vote by assigning points to the non-waiving debater.
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RationalMadman

04.20.2019 05:26PM

Criterion

Con

Tie

Pro

Points

Better arguments

3 point(s)

Better sources

2 point(s)

Better legibility

1 point(s)

Better conduct

1 point(s)

Reason:

Pro waived last Round.

Club

04.20.2019 01:24PM

Criterion

Con

Tie

Pro

Points

Better arguments

3 point(s)

Better sources

2 point(s)

Better legibility

1 point(s)

Better conduct

1 point(s)

Reason:

Pro waived the last round.

Pinkfreud08

04.20.2019 03:43AM

Criterion

Con

Tie

Pro

Points

Better arguments

3 point(s)

Better sources

2 point(s)

Better legibility

1 point(s)

Better conduct

1 point(s)

Reason:

Pro waived the entire debate in the final round

TheRealNihilist

04.19.2019 11:22PM

Criterion

Con

Tie

Pro

Points

Better arguments

3 point(s)

Better sources

2 point(s)

Better legibility

1 point(s)

Better conduct

1 point(s)

Reason:

Pro waived the last Round which means he conceded the debate.

PsychometricBrain

04.18.2019 06:44PM

Criterion

Con

Tie

Pro

Points

Better arguments

3 point(s)

Better sources

2 point(s)

Better legibility

1 point(s)

Better conduct

1 point(s)

Reason:

Con argues that not all children want to learn an instrument and thus should not have to, Pro argues that playing a musical instrument will is beneficial but Con refutes this by arguing that if a child does not have the passion to learn an instrument, he won't experience these benefits anyway (presumably due to lack of motivation). Pro conceded this rebuttal by waiving the last round, therefore arguments to Con

oromagi

04.18.2019 03:42AM

Criterion

Con

Tie

Pro

Points

Better arguments

3 point(s)

Better sources

2 point(s)

Better legibility

1 point(s)

Better conduct

1 point(s)

Reason:

Not very convincing arguments on either side. Should children refuse mathematics because they lack passion for the subject? Pro correctly points out that music study is good for human development but doesn't engage with Con and concedes half his time. Conduct point for concession.

Melcharaz

04.13.2019 01:25AM

Criterion

Con

Tie

Pro

Points

Better arguments

3 point(s)

Better sources

2 point(s)

Better legibility

1 point(s)

Better conduct

1 point(s)

Reason:

So pro reasons lack of passion and friviolusness in regard to NOT learning/playing? a musical instrument
And con reasons promotion of craftsmanship (helps in future regard?) incentive in achievement and hand eye cordination he also said "Scientists say this" but no link or proof of his claim.
Pro rebutts about lack of passion not helping in con's arguements and may indeed be counter intuitive.

I award points to no one as i feel there are no convincing arguements or reliable sources on either side and both sides had acceptable grammar and conduct.

Ramshutu

04.13.2019 01:19AM

Criterion

Con

Tie

Pro

Points

Better arguments

3 point(s)

Better sources

2 point(s)

Better legibility

1 point(s)

Better conduct

1 point(s)

Reason:

There is not enough detail here to cast a vote either way. While I admire your enthusiasm of both sides. Facts should be presented, you should provide sources to warrant your claims, and you should try and explain how your different values and arguments contrast.

This seemed to be like both sides were giving a short, undirected opinion at each other, more depth is needed.

K_Michael

04.12.2019 07:33PM

Criterion

Con

Tie

Pro

Points

Better arguments

3 point(s)

Better sources

2 point(s)

Better legibility

1 point(s)

Better conduct

1 point(s)

Reason:

Con provided a good point, Pro provided a good point, then Con refutes with the same point as before.
Equal conduct because Pro was able to admit when he lost.
No sources were used.