Rappp Battle
The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.
After 4 votes and with 5 points ahead, the winner is...
- Publication date
- Last updated date
- Type
- Standard
- Number of rounds
- 3
- Time for argument
- Three days
- Max argument characters
- 30,000
- Voting period
- One week
- Point system
- Multiple criterions
- Voting system
- Open
Arguments = Opinion
Sources = Puns, Metaphor, Wordplay.
Grammar = Rhymes per word on average.
Conduct = Any References to Oneself or opponent.
opinion to Pro- specific critique trumps generic critique. Pro gets Con better than Con gets Pro.
"philosophy's only as deep as his google search" strategists, pagan gods, defeatist, subjective.
wordplay to Con- more complex wordplay "omnip-o-tence" more evocative imagery "this opiate the masses deep throatin," elephant, etc.
rhyme- Pro's degree of difficulty far outweighed Cons, at moments close to actual verse
"I'm talking down to you because that's the only language that defeatists speak.
Your potential's limitless, but you'll never get past your subjective peak.
I've tamed the beast, you could be this good consider this a leak.
But I keep on climbing, so you'll never reach me so your outlook's bleak."
You've been in my trap all along, you're a dangling rat.
I actually got you to change your entire rap format.
You gave up ground like you were a contentious doormat.
I logically reduced you by simply projecting your poor stats.
You're young dumb, under my thumb, and now under control
I numb this bum, as I hum, drum, and now I'm on a roll.
You're just my chum, and I say Yum, to eating this blundering troll
The ballets I done I won, I'm the one who stomped, lets take another poll.
pretty solid stanzas.
reference- Pro was more specific and insightful regarding Con's character, while Con just riffed on elements offered by Pro
Counter vote bomb
RM sucks and I am going to wreck his elo
R1 is average other than this:
“You should turn tail and run before I'm done have my fun.
Cause when I'm finish this blunt. I'm donning my logical gun.
And shooting your fallacious dispositions right in the face son.
That's a flawless victory scored gracefully in phase one. “
Rm started well with “Fuck it, I'm goin' raw, hammer this bitch, like Art o' War,
Sun Tzu, Bonapa-rte Ali infused with Thor,” then the insults went off the rails and seemed to wander off into bizarre land.
The remainder is okay.
R2: pros insults are clever - I like the chess references but aren’t zingers. Rm again starts out with a strong opening line, and appears to degenerate into the dart rap battle equivalent of mumble rap. It’s seems geared up to make a clever rhyme, rather than to make sense as an insult.
R3 was more fun “You've been in my trap all along, you're a dangling rat.
I actually got you to change your entire rap format.
You gave up ground like you were a contentious doormat.
I logically reduced you by simply projecting your poor stats. “
A mediocre rhyme combo section to be fair - it fell kinda flat before this:
“None of your imaginary pagan friends are coming to help thee.
Your mythological dependency is probably not healthy.
It hasn't given you the power that your crave and you're not wealthy.
You might think your raps are subtle but you're really not stealthy.”
Not the funniest line ever told, but ups over the average of this debate so far.
RMs final round was all “I banged your mum” type insults that were the same as RM always is, using the word herbivore again. The last round is just the same as the others. No punchy insults, nothing really that interesting other than the umbilical cord reference.
I felt that WIRs quality was lower than some of his other rap battles, not as much punch as before, but RM just hasn’t found his form. He took on 18 concurrent debates - and the lack of time and effort spent shows.
This one was closer than other, so I’m not going to award arguments - but just points for word play to WIR, don’t feel that the victory is worth more than 2 points.
this guy gets me, lol.
duly noted. I am switching things up when I can. I just want to make sure that when I do it, it's for artistic reasons and not "merely" a voter appeal. So arbitrary switch = bad and style based switch = good and if those are both true then = good.
Rap logic :)
Thanks for the critiques.
Alrighty, but don't be afraid to try new stuff! voters can adapt.
I do that sometimes. My prewritten raps look more like strings of rapid rhymes.
One of my things is that I like to build up a story to tell and that forces me to cut back on the rhymes a bit.
Another part of my format as audience consideration. I want it to be easy to read.
Honestly, it doesn't matter how the words are blocked out per se. I made that example in a rap battle against RM actually. His rhymes are more or less structured like mine with two key differences.
A) He puts whole stanzas in a giant string of one or two lines.
B) He doesn't have any standards for a rhyme scheme per se and just kind of spits and plops rhymes down to fit his taste.
I know my stuff looks like I'm just writing stuff and plopping rhymes at the end, but I can assure you that's not always the case. Yes, I do that when I'm story telling my rap, but I also do it knowing in advance which words I want to rhyme and I try to set the story up to compliment those rhymes.
But I can also go the other way just as easily.
For example
"You're-blaming-and-flaming-the-voters-while-claiming-that-we-must-be-insane-to-not-accept-your-reign-and-hopping-on-the-train-of-RM-feigning-fame-retaining-off-your-name-while-failing-what-a-shame."
This was from my most recent battle that I'm still in with RM. I do a long string of rhymes, but notice how I still try to have a theme behind the rhymes. This is key for me personally because I like to tell stories and I mostly rap for my subjective enjoyment, although I love crowds too :)
But yeah, I just wanted to cover that because I think people think I don't mix it up just because I format my bars. I do that to make it easy for the voters to read and for me to reread. With that said. I am slave to certain patterns that's not an arbitrary critique that the voters have been giving. I consider it duly.
Don't be afraid to mix it up! you make rhymes within the sentence structure as well as at the end of it. Example
Tony chewed up the boy like pepperoni and started dissing on his ability
Reconstructing arguments in the events of mitigated liability
I guess I'm losing my new rapper smell, lol. thanks for the votes as always.
thanks
solid counterbomb. respect
Please cvb Type1 so he can do it on his alt?
conspiracy theories are fun.
LOL!
After reading your rap. I am now convinced that Type 1 is your alt account.
and Boolean I guess
I speak, English, Spanish, and elephant.
LOL!!!!!!!!!
I don't speak html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-E_p3Kc3Yk
Man, you repeat your words too much, lol. That's at least the third time you've said herbivore. I guess it makes sense, you kind of blew all your material rapping me.
I usually don't like to brag, but I went ham that time. :)
Typo. Line 13. Meant to say "Before I'm done having my fun"
Typo, Line 7 Meant to be "lack of style". although it almost still works, lol. I should have tried to play it off.