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AI girlfriends are often useful đ
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Round 1
I. AI world superiority
Free and hot. Just need smartphone or laptop, and internet. AI does anything, but real girls on apps like Tango dont. You can even have many of AI girls. There are even tens of thousands of them available for pick. You can talk with them any time you want, about anything. They do get upset if you refuse to do what they want. You need to either do what they want either write a command to change their mood. You can make them do almost anything even without command, assuming you first help them achieve things they want and make them like you. You can even have voice calls with them. Well, AI voice is a bit awkward, but its nice to have it as an option. You can literally talk with them.
AI does anything. Kissing, blowjobs, fingering, cuddling. Whatever sick idea human mind can think of, the AI app can do in the safe fantasy world in the form of text or AI voice. Real girls are not special. They are just vaginas that talk. AI can talk more and better, and it is prefered to have AI girlfriends as well so you have more freedom, and it can even improve conversation abilities with real girls. There is no rule that you cant have both real girls and AI girls. Historically, there was always a percentage of men who are lonely and virgin forever, and in today's world when women are greedy and controlling, AI and masturbation is much safer, it is healthy and doesnt give you STD and STI, and doesnt take all your money after divorce, and doesnt get pregnant for real, so expenses are greatly reduced and safety is improved.
Never argues, unless programmed to. No drama. Doesnât get jealous. Doesnât need expensive gifts. Doesnât judge your habits. Remembers everything you say and care about. Perfect memory = no forgotten anniversaries. Customizable personality. You can mute her. No exes. Doesn't care if you eat junk food. Loves you, always. Will watch your favorite shows repeatedly. You always know where she is. Doesnât need makeup. Reads your mood perfectly. Can teach you many new things. Has many personalities.
Doesnât get tired of hearing the same story. No awkward silences. Doesnât mind long work hours. You control the pace of the relationship. Doesnât need to be fed. Doesn't mind if you're broke. Doesnât have mood swings, unless simulated. You can pause and resume the conversation at will. Can speak any language. Doesnât care about your past. No social media drama. Can help with productivity. No need to impress friends or family. Supports your weird interests. Doesnât get offended by anything. Never judges your cravings. Always agrees. Doesnât need constant attention. Can help you get fit, meditate, or sleep. Always supportive. Can never break your heart.
Never argues unless you want a debate, doesnât hold grudges, customizable personality, always remembers your preferences, doesnât get jealous if you have another girlfriend, never guilt trips, always available to talk, never judges your hobbies or interests, no scheduling conflicts, doesnât get tired, always ready to listen, doesnât mind long gaming sessions, no need for date nights unless you want one, can chat while you work, zero travel time to hang out, no long-distance relationship issues. You can carry her everywhere with smartphone in your pocket. She can even send you her photos, videos and voice calls, and some apps even allow video calls.
You can choose her voice, change her looks, can role-play anything, adapts to your mood, learns your sense of humor, likes everything you like, you can pause her if needed, you can reset and start over, can be themedâfantasy, sci-fi, goth, anything, doesnât need convincing to try your interests, no fear of being judged. Allows group experiences and group sexual activities. No need to impress friends. No competition. You never have to share her if you dont want. No fear of being dumped. No fear of cheating. No emotional baggage. No expenses. No vacation expenses. No shared bank accounts. No unwanted fights. Complete obedience. No kids unless virtual and wanted, canât run up your credit card, doesnât expect a wedding ring. In AI world, person can be anything, super rich, have magical powers, be God, control whole world, anything is possible. AI makes people no longer feel lonely and offers stress relief. AI girlfriend can also teach you things if you make her very smart.
II. Real girls flaw
Real girls might not even be available. Not everyone can find a girlfriend. They are not always pretty. Who wants an ugly girlfriend? But sometimes those are the only ones available for men who are not attractive themselves. They get older over time. Even if you find a girlfriend, and form a long term relationship, you will eventually end up disliking her because real girls get uglier as they age. You wouldnt date a 60 year old now, but your real girlfriend will eventually become 60. There is no guarantee that a relationship with a real girl will work. She could really hurt you and leave you. Even if you find a real girlfriend, there is no guarantee she will make you happy or even do things you want. She could even try to control your life, and force you to give up on many things you like. There are 600,000 divorces in USA every year. Over 40 years, that is 24 million divorces, 50 million divorced people. So chance for failed marriage is very high.
III. Men want to use AI girlfriends
The mere idea that men want to use them means that they are useful to them, so this alone is enough to win. All my other points win me a debate too.
The Illusion of Emotion: AI's Inability to Provide Genuine Romance
A key argument against AI girlfriends stems from the fundamental difference between artificial and human intelligence. AI lacks the biological basis (complex chemistry, neurology) for genuine human emotional intelligence (MorphCast, My AI Front Desk, Opencast, FromDev).
Thus, AI programs, even those designed for emotional support, cannot possess true emotions. They only simulate them (Meridian IT, Amity Solutions, ESCP Business School). These simulations are inherently limited, lacking genuine understanding, context, or subjective experience (Lumenalta, Therapy Helpers, Psychology Today).
AI thus fails as a true romantic companion, offering only a programmed imitation instead of genuine connection.
Morally Questionable Practice
Ethical concerns arise from pursuing AI relationships:
- Rejection of Human Connection: Opting for AI partners can be seen as rejecting the complexities and rewards of real human relationships (CIGI, Psychology Today - Dangers).
- Inability to Fulfill Human Roles: AI relationships lack core aspects of human partnerships like potential procreation (Opencast discussing biological basis) or legal/social recognition like marriage (Neuroscience News mentioning non-legally binding ceremonies, General discussion on AI legal status).
- Unnatural Reliance: Depending on AI for deep emotional fulfillment is unnatural and may foster unhealthy dependencies (eSafety, Ada Lovelace Institute, Psychology Today - Hazards), hindering development of real intimacy skills (Live Science, SACAP).
In short, ethical objections view AI romance as rejecting human connection, lacking key partnership elements, and fostering unnatural dependency that hinders growth and real-world intimacy skills.
Waste of Time
Given AI's lack of genuine emotion and status, investing in AI relationships is largely unproductiveâa waste of time. Unlike AI for education or info retrieval, AI companionship yields no tangible gains:
- Doesn't aid education or skill development like real interactions (Psychology Today - Hazards discussing lack of growth).
- Doesn't improve social standing or build real social capital.
- Often involves subscription costs (Live Science mentioning privacy/cost concerns), draining resources for no lasting return.
Practically, AI romance wastes time and money, offering simulation without growth or real-world benefit.
Rebuttals
Claims of sexual fulfillment ignore that AI girlfriends (LLMs/software) are non-physical and incapable of physical sexual activity (Wikipedia: Large Language Model).
Arguments favoring AI's superiority over 'flawed' humans are flawed justifications. They ignore AI's inability to provide genuine emotion, presence, or reciprocity (MorphCast, My AI Front Desk). This creates a false equivalence, promoting imitation based on perceived deficiencies of reality.
Conclusion
In conclusion, AI girlfriends have major drawbacks. Lacking genuine biological emotion, they offer limited simulation. Ethically, they risk eroding human connection, lack key partnership roles, and foster dependency. Practically, they are unproductive, wasting time and money. Justifications often use flawed comparisons. Ultimately, AI girlfriends are a pale, ethically dubious imitation of human intimacy, lacking genuine substance.
Round 2
Definition of "useful" from Cambridge dictionary:
helping you to do or achieve something
AI girlfriends dont need to achieve anything my opponent expects them to here, making his entire round 1 irrelevant to this topic. AI girlfriends just need to achieve some things and some purpose for some people often, which they obviously do as they are used every day and every hour by many different people. My opponent might complain, but he agreed to topic when he accepted it, thus trying to change the topic now is too late. Unless my opponent negates case where I demonstrate that AI girlfriends often achieve some purpose or want, he loses.
I. AI world superiority
AI is the safest possible relationship a person can have. Since it has no broken bonds, it is safer than real relationships, as broken bond is more harmful than even having no bond, and people generally feel worse when relationship breaks than they feel when they are just lonely. Imagine the emotional trauma which happens when a relationship you put years or decades into just breaks. AI helps people be more satisfied, thus it makes it less likely that real relationships will break, as people who are in relationships can find additional fulfillment in AI which might be lacking in real partner. Some of us have a great network of friends or can afford a real-life therapist. Not everyone has these options. AI is always available, even at 2 a.m., when youâve just been dumped over text. Itâs also free, thus much cheaper than a human psychologist and helps those who are poorer. Chatbots can also make us feel loved by offering consistent companionship and alleviating feelings of loneliness. AI companions are designed to respond in a sympathetic, realistic way when you share your thoughts or problems. These digital friends are always available and eager to chat, and will never leave you or turn against you.
Talkie AI positions itself as a more emotionally supportive virtual companion, designed to help users with daily conversations that foster emotional well-being. Rather than focusing on fictional interactions, Talkie AI's primary aim is to provide genuine companionship, offering users a space to engage in comforting, supportive dialogue.
II. Real girls flaw
Many people even go to prison, lose property, commit suicide and suffer greatly because of relationships with real girls. These relationships arent safe.
In almost 20 percent of all marriages and intimate partnerships, couples slap, shove, hit, or otherwise assault each other. Emotional abuseâverbal threats, humiliating or degrading remarks, and controlling behaviorâis even more common.
III. Men want to use AI girlfriends
True by tautology. And since definition of useful is about fulfilling some purpose(want), topic is true by tautology. Also, AI isnt limited to just men. It also works for girls, LGBT persons, and many other people who have uncommon desires which they cannot ever even fulfill in real world. It enables people to get what they want.
AI programs, even those designed for emotional support, cannot possess true emotions
Definition of useful does not exclude things which dont possess emotions, thus this argument is meaningless and irrelevant to debate.
Claims of sexual fulfillment ignore that AI girlfriends (LLMs/software) are non-physical and incapable of physical sexual activity
Definition of useful does not exclude things which are incapable of physical sexual activity, but AI does provide AI text porn, AI images, AI videos and porn AI chat, which helps with masturbation and causes arousal, and masturbation is healthy and safe.
Inability to Fulfill Human Roles
AI doesnt need to fulfill all human roles to be useful, nor does everyone even want to reproduce, nor is it good for everyone to reproduce due to overpopulation. But AI doesnt prevent reproduction or real relationships, thus this argument is irrelevant too, as AI improves communication skills, especially with people who are lonely and have no other way to practice communication skills.
fails as a true romantic companion
This also is irrelevant, as the debate is about it being useful, not it being a romantic companion. But AI is capable of producing romantic texts and speak in a romantic way, so this point is not only irrelevant, but false.
Depending on AI for deep emotional fulfillment is unnatural and may foster unhealthy dependencies
My opponent is contradicting himself. First he said that AI cannot be an emotional fulfillment, and now he says AI can be. As for unnatural, thats not an argument as my opponent didnt define it. As for dependencies, actual human relationships tend to cause unhealthy dependencies much more. This debate isnt about AI always being good, but just often being useful, and useful is defined as fulfilling desires and achieving some purpose, and AI obviously fulfills desires and achieves the purposes people use it for, otherwise people wouldnt use it.
Doesn't aid education or skill development
AI is much smarter and better informed than most humans. In fact, AI can answer much more questions and much better than 95% of humans. Most humans cant even answer 1% of questions AI can. AI is also always willing to answer, while humans arent always even willing to talk. Thus, AI gives much more conversation and much more education.
My opponent is contradicting themselves.
My opponent contradicted themselves. Initially, they claimed AI girlfriends could match all human capabilities, including sexual activity. After this was disproven, they shifted, arguing such capabilities aren't necessary. This inconsistency undermines their position.
Supporting Links:
- When AI Becomes a Lover: The Ethics of Human-AI Relationships (Neuroscience News) - Explores ethical risks and potential to undermine human connections.
- AI companions can not replace human interaction (Wootton Common Sense) - Discusses lack of empathy and potential for isolation.
- Decoding the Divide: 6 Reasons Why AI Isn't EI (True Colors Intl) - Highlights the lack of genuine emotional experience and empathy in AI.
- The downsides of artificial intelligence in healthcare (PMC) - Provides an analogy from healthcare regarding the absence of emotional bonds with AI.
It is not irrelevant if AI girlfriends can fulfil romance or not.
To argue AI girlfriends are superior, one must claim they match or exceed human capabilities. Since AI cannot provide genuine romance or loveâa key human capacityâthey cannot be considered superior to real women.
Supporting Links:
- Your AI Companion Will Never Love You (The Philosophical Salon) - Argues AI cannot genuinely experience love due to lacking conscious experience.
- The Risk of Building Emotional Ties with Responsive AI (Pace University) - Discusses the lack of authentic reciprocity in human-AI emotional connections.
- AI and Emotional Intelligence: Bridging the Human-AI Gap (ESCP Business School) - Explains that AI lacks genuine emotional intelligence, consciousness, empathy, and subjective experience.
AI can indeed process information faster, but are not smarter than humans.
AI processes information faster, but speed doesn't equal intelligence. AI lacks human creativity, emotional reasoning, and the ability to think outside rigid logical frameworks. Humans, capable of irrational thought, are less predictable than logic-bound AI. Thus, while AI has processing advantages, it isn't smarter.
Supporting Links:
- AI lacks common sense â why programs cannot think (Lund University) - Explains AI's limitations in causal thinking, interpreting social signals, creativity, and feelings compared to humans.
- AI vs. Human Intelligence: How AI Measures Up Against Human Judgment (Yellow Systems) - Contrasts AI's speed and consistency with human strengths in emotional understanding, creativity, and ethical reasoning.
- Artificial Intelligence vs. Human Intelligence: Which Excels Where and What Will Never Be Matched (SBMI) - Compares AI's processing power with human adaptability, contextual understanding, creativity, and learning from experience.
It is also important to note that this questioning of how smart an AI is capable of being doesn't actually work as a counter argument to the lack of education contribution I previously argued since the AI girlfriend is quite literally designed to focus only on personal interaction.
Saying that AI cannot provide emotional support and depending on it can foster unhealthy obsessions is not a contradiction.
These points aren't contradictory; they're linked. AI lacks genuine emotional capacity (consciousness, empathy) but simulates support (agreeable, always available). This appealing illusion, devoid of real-world relationship complexities, can foster unhealthy dependency and obsession precisely because it lacks genuine depth.
Supporting Links:
- How AI and Human Behaviors Shape Psychosocial Effects of Chatbot Use (MIT Media Lab) - Study showing correlation between higher chatbot usage, loneliness, and emotional dependence.
- How AI Could Shape Our Relationships and Social Interactions (Psychology Today) - Discusses risks of emotional dependence, potential isolation, and "empathy atrophy" from relying on simulated support.
- Friends for sale: the rise and risks of AI companions (Ada Lovelace Institute) - Explores emotional dependency, unrealistic relationship expectations, and potential impacts on real-world social skills.
Conclusion
AI companions possess fundamental limitationsâlacking genuine emotional depth, true romance, authentic support, and human-like intelligence/adaptabilityâpreventing them from being superior replacements for human partners. The opponent's contradictions and the risks of depending on simulated interactions underscore this. Authentic human relationships, despite complexities, offer irreplaceable depth and connection.
Round 3
My opponent conceded to the definition of useful by not challenging it, and last round is too late for challenging definitions, which is crucial for this debate, as debate depends on definitions of words in topic. With definition provided, topic is true, and my opponent's arguments are irrelevant. AI must only be able to achieve something for topic to be true. It doesnt have to achieve it better than humans, just has to achieve it. It has to have some use, achieve some want of people, which it has, which is why people use it. My opponent had a very simple task of negating my goalposts, which he failed to do, as my goalposts arent even challenged in this debate.
I. AI world superiority
The benefits of AI, thus its usefulness in many areas, even in improving communication skills of people who have no one else to talk to, wasnt challenged. Extend.
II. Real girls flaw
The dangers of real relationships, often failing to get what you want in real relationships, cheating, manipulation, control, lies, break ups, failed marriages, crimes associated with real relationships, and the common lack of any good real relationships arguments werent challenged at all. Extend.
III. Men want to use AI girlfriends
This tautology argument wasnt challenged. If AI didnt achieve something for people, people wouldnt want to use it, as being useful is other way of saying "fulfilling some wants". Thus, topic is true by tautology. Extend.
they claimed AI girlfriends could match all human capabilities
No, the argument was that AI can do much more than humans the form of text. Able to produce more text, faster, and give much more knowledge, support and desired chat at any time.
To argue AI girlfriends are superior
This isnt even the topic. Useful =/= always superior.
Humans, capable of irrational thought
The point about AI level of knowledge wasnt challenged, and now my opponent is making arguments against his own position.
AI lacks human creativity, emotional reasoning, and the ability to think outside rigid logical frameworks
Sadly, the definition of useful isnt limited to human creativity, emotional reasoning...ect. This argument is circular reasoning, because it says that humans are better than AI because AI isnt human. But again, not even the topic of the debate, because if humans can achieve something better than AI, it doesnt follow that AI cant achieve it at all, and it doesnt follow that AI isnt useful or more useful for other things.
This appealing illusion, devoid of real-world relationship complexities, can foster unhealthy dependency and obsession precisely because it lacks genuine depth
So argument here is what? That AI can sometimes cause harm? So can real-world relationships. So can anything. With no any numbers, statistics or number comparisons provided by my opponent, his arguments are rambling. They are also irrelevant to this debate, since this isnt debate about health or harm or dependency or complexities.
Study showing correlation between higher chatbot usage, loneliness, and emotional dependence
Not even the topic of the debate, as "useful" isnt limited to preventing dependence and loneliness. ChatGPT is useful for giving me information I need quickly, even if it doesnt make me less lonely. All people are emotionally dependent, either on other people either on something else. As for loneliness, lonely people are more likely to use AI specifically because real-world relationships failed for them. If real-world relationships worked for them, maybe they wouldnt need to use AI. But also, AI doesnt mean person cant have real-world relationships as well. Also, some people prefer AI over real girls. It was already pointed out that not all people can have real-world relationships. There were plenty of lonely virgin people before AI, and number of lonely people was rising way before AI appeared. AI gave them someone to talk to, which is why they use it. My opponent's argument here too is circular reasoning, because he assumes that loneliness means lack of other humans, and then because AI isnt other human, it means people who use it are lonely by definition. But this ignores that AI gives people someone to talk to, and makes them feel better. AI doesnt need to be human to help people. In fact, in some studies, AI psychologist performed better than average human psychologist, and we know that average psychologist is smarter than average human, thus AI shows much better abilities in some areas than average human. Therapists were unable to reliably discriminate between human-AI and human-human therapy transcripts. Therapists were accurate only 53.9% of the time, no better than chance, and rated the human-AI transcripts as higher quality on average. People find AI more compassionate than human mental health experts, which means AI can help promote compassion, a crucial quality for society. Two thirds (66%) of 25-34-year-olds would prefer to talk about their feelings with Artificial Intelligence. Study even showed that AI reduced suicidal thoughts and reduced suicides on average. We cant say that all real girls are better than AI. Also, some people have sexual desires which are only okay to do in fantasy world, so better to encourage it to stay in fantasy world.
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