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White Privilege Does Not Exist
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Description
Here are some ground rules:
White privilege will be defined as the advantages that American society inherently grants to whites over blacks, Asians, Hispanics, etc.
Pro will believe that white privilege does not exist.
Con will believe that it does exist.
The debate will not be about semantics or arguing over what words mean, but will instead be over whether whites are inherently advantages over minorities because of American society.
Profanity or personal attacks will not be tolerated.
Only accept the debate challenge if you’re going to participate.
Round 1
The idea that white people are inherently privileged by systems in modern-day American society is stupid.
You think they’re privileged? Show me the privilege. Is there anything that a white person can do that a black person can’t?
If you can prove that there is any privilege, I’ll believe you. But as for now, change my mind…
Before I begin, greetings to the opposing side and a tribute to an individual in light of this subject,
Mr. Neely Fuller Jr. October 1929 - February 2025.
I recommend the opposing side and audience to
look up Mr. Fuller online. He was the author of the
code book titled The United Independent
Compensatory Code System Concept for victims of "white" supremacy .
You can find the tribute video on youtube.com/@j.talkstothepeopleradio6008
Yes so the author of the
code book which you can get by going to producejustice.com and what will come up on the screen is a brief description and a series of instructions for ordering.
Now that comes with a textbook/workbook for
thought, speech and action for victims of "white"
supremacy.
Now the opposing side is using the terms
"White privilege" which has been defined as the
advantages that American society inherently grants to whites over blacks, Asians, Hispanics, etc.
Now "white" supremacy is that to what the opposite side has offered but on a global scale
and not just in one region. But if we laser focus on a place called America which doesn't exist according
to the writings of Mr.Fuller, all that exists is the
system of "racism" , the system of "white"
supremacy, no justice, no people that exist that
practice justice such as what Americans would do if they truly existed according to the writings.
It is those people who are classified as "white" who dominate and govern and control those people who are classified as "non white" and this is done
along with mistreatment.
Those that mistreat are the "white" supremacists
and or who you refer to as those "white" folks as being with privilege.
The system of "white" supremacy is all about
having the advantage. In all areas of people
activities in which Mr. Fuller has listed as nine areas.
-Economics
-Education
-Entertainment
-Labor
-Law
-Politics
-Religion
-Sex
-War
Each of these areas,we can ask, do the "white"
supremacists dominate those whom they classify as non "white" in each of these areas?
Do they have total control?
Are they in position to take advantage?
Yes and yes.
Does this mean they can and would mistreat those under their domination?
Yes. This means the non "white" people of the
planet or namely according to this topic, a place
called America are run by those telling them and allowing them what to do, day by day.
Meaning, not being able to to do anything without
the stamp of the "white" supremacist approval.
Now in order to maintain the system of "white"
supremacy, somebody has to be mistreated. Somebody has to be taken advantage of. Somebody has
to be dominated. Now how is the system going to
remain in place as a one world global government, with the privileges?
If you start yielding all these privileges to the non
"white" , you'll no longer have the system of
"white" supremacy.
The "white" supremacists cannot allow their
subjects, their slaves to take over and allow them to receive the advantage of getting into certain
positions in any of those areas mentioned.
The slave master and slave owner have to keep a
leash on their slaves. Otherwise the slave system
would be demolished. You cannot allow the slaves
to get into roles, into positions that will end up
having them dominate . That's not good for
business. See "white" supremacy is a business and like any business you do what
gives strength to the business and what maintains
it.
Every "white" person that is a "white" supremacist or either benefits from the system you may call
"white" privilege. Now you can say it's not
deliberate, intentional and you can even say it's not personal because it's not. It's not personal, it's just business.
The system that is setup in place favors those that
run it , can assume to run it and will always be those that continue to run it . Those that have the higher
roles and we expect them to be "white", why? Is it
the advantage of them to have that over those that don't have that?
I haven't even touched on discrimination and so
called police brutality . Who is in power to control
jobs? That's one of the areas,labor.
Who's in power to run the police? That's in the area of law .
So we've established there is no america but the
system and government of " white" supremacy.
Now "police brutality" doesn't exist.
A police officer cannot be brutal. A brutal person
holding the title "police officer" brutalizing a
non "white" classified as "white" is what you can
call a "race" solder or "white" supremacist.
Which covers this part of it. Any "white" person that is able to be a "white" supremacist should be
suspected of being one as one obviously likely to
receive and benefit from what is called white
privilege or the system of "white" supremacy.
Does any "white" person not?
No.
Well about the low income, poor, downtrodden
ones.
On any day, any circumstance, any place, what will be the advantage or treatment of a "white" person
be compared to a non "white"?
As far as getting employment, getting a role of a
high up position, what are the chances compared to a non "white" person?
What are the chances of victimizing a people via
murder and being apprehended peacefully if you
are non "white"?
A suspected "white" supremacist or a very
privileged "white" person goes into a church setting and
lynches several "black" folks with lead.
How is he treated? How was he treated in
comparison to a victim of "white" supremacy?
He was treated with privilege. When slavery of the
1800s converted to penal prison system, the many descendants of the enslaved ancestors have been
imprisoned due to a lack of privilege of proper legal representation.
So many victims of "white" supremacy end up in
penal prison or dead at the hand of the privileged
"race" soldier "white" supremacists. It is
encouraged that through the code book, when a
victim of "white" supremacy, a prisoner of war, is
captured,apprehended, he or she must not fight,
must not fuss and don't flee.
Why?
The non "white" does not have privilege to do otherwise. A person shot in the back while fleeing is not
privilege but mistreatment.
The non "white " person seeing those flashing red
and blue lights, he or she ought to consider in their mind at that very moment "I'm dead". "Even if I
don't fuss, don't fight, don't flee. I may get shot anyway. I can surrender, be down on the ground,
comply and face my last day on this planet. I'm
going to be dead. I just might be dead today. When
it all gets too much, I'm going to lynch myself. I
can't stand this global prison system. I won't stand
for greater confinement in a penal prison."
The non "white " person doesn't have privilege on
his or her side.
Now the topic statement says "White Privilege Does Not Exist".
The typical " white" person can deny its existence.
He can say "I don't have " white" privilege. I'm not a racist. If you say I am, prove it".
Would it not stand to reason that privilege has
protection on all sides?
Privilege means you can't prove I do have "white"
privilege. You can't prove I'm a "white"
supremacist. You can't prove I discriminate. You
can't prove this to anybody. Don't even think about it legally. Don't even think about litigation. A non
"white" will have to go to a "white" person to prove anything. A "black" person can't get this
confirmation from another "black" person. It's got
to be somebody "white" to back up the "black"
person because the "white" person is the only one
that counts. That's what privilege is all about. It
looks like it's not even there when it is.
A non "white" says "Why didn't I get that job ,
Mr. Smith?"
Mr. Smith says , "I was going to call you to let you
know that you're not what we're looking for."
"But Mr.Smith, they said they were impressed with my resume on the phone and had a suitable
background and invited me to an interview. Then
after I spoke with the receptionist in person seeing my face, the person said you filled the role".
Mr. Smith says, " I encourage you to continue
looking for future opportunities with us. Have a nice day...".
Now nothing looks wrong or unjust on the surface,
right. It appears everyone can have the same
opportunities.
But who do we see over and over again filling those same opportunities and roles again and again?
How many applicants of all different demographics applied for those roles?
The power structures that be, the fortune 500
companies, the major corporations are dominated and controlled by "white" people making them the most financially,capitalistic,high status, echelon,
elite privileged people of all.
They have the privilege of selling the majority of
services to fit the needs of whom they dominate
where the subjects are totally dependent. That is
the privilege over non "whites" that allow the
non "whites" where to go, where to live, where to
work, who to have sex with, who to talk to , who to marry. That is the privilege they have. They have
total control and complete authority.
That's the advantage the "whites" or "white"
supremacists have in a position as such over non
"whites" in economics.
The power structures that be in the schools,
colleges, universities that grant what they do to
students, graduates that are non "whites" who are
given credentials . To the non "white" person, he or she sees this as the given advantage to be able to
get a highly professional occupation. A role that
requires a great amount of expertise.
The advantage that is mind you, given, by the
"whites" are decided,allowed for that non "white"
person to receive the opportunity to excel
financially(back at the control in the area of economics) and in a career.
This is the advantage superseding all non "whites"
in the area of education.
The power structures that be in the major film
industries, what is allowed to be viewed on your t.v. screens, theater screens, advertisements,
marketing images, social media platforms are
regulated by the powers that are found in the
majority, "whites" and tied back to the area of
economics, the financial investors, banks , financial institutions that are again , the majority ,"white "
people. This is the advantage of the "white"
supremacists in area of entertainment.
All the areas of activity are interrelated. So it always go back to the area of money, currency, finance or
circles back no matter which area of people activity you're in.
Now everything mentioned thus far has concerned
labor. That's the following area of people activity
after entertainment. It all is intertwined with labor. From the major companies of businesses(dealing
domestically and foreign), financial institutions,
educational institutions, that all encompass people activity in a society do so under laws in that society.
That is the advantage of "whites" in labor and law
with the majority of "whites" in capitalism,
taxation,funding the majority of control and
services.
Of course law is not without politics. All of this is
politics, every area. All of this has to do with people interactions.
Inside politics, people believe in actions and vote in actions they believe in and these are belief systems backed up by action which are what religions are.
It just so happens to be that the strongest actions
that are backed up in the land called America is
that of the system of "white" supremacy. Religion is supposed to govern your life. People live their
lifestyles out according to their religion. There's no religion that reigns as much dominance in the lives of non "white" people. Where you can work , how
long you can work and everything else that is
dictated including your time off to practice your
individual religion is permitted by those with the
upper advantage, the privileged "white" supremacists.
These beliefs and policies are also backed up in war. The last area of people activity mentioned that is
no different that non "white" people enter in that are dominated by. The folks referred to as
civilians that are under the same government as
the ones in the military face the same subjection.
You protect your country , protect the systems in
place.
The economic systems, the capitalistic systems,the
workforce systems, the welfare systems and any
other subsidy assistance programs. The non "whites" are in no other place but to protect and give strength to the system.
Now people will argue, no, "white" supremacy doesn't exist. This thing called white privilege doesn't exist and "racism" doesn't exist. People say we're all americans. We're all equal and have the equal opportunity.
I raise the question.
How can we all have the equal opportunity with the average higher up position in the workforce, in commerce, in economics, even government being occupied by a "white" person?
As Neely Fuller Jr. would say, there's no such individual as an american. Not that or anything else for that matter. You're a victim of "white" supremacy. Americans are equals practicing justice. This is not an even playing field.
"The idea that white people are inherently privileged by systems in modern-day American society is stupid."
They are more privileged with running the majority of major industries, economics and all the areas of people activity of non "white"/"black" people.
Looking at the history of so called America that was established, it was founded on the privileged that take the master role and have had the head start first position ever since in everything. Like I itemized in the workforce, labor, entertainment, film industry and so on. You typically see a "white" face as the face of major big enterprise or a non " white" representative with a "white" man behind him or her.
"You think they’re privileged? Show me the privilege. Is there anything that a white person can do that a black person can’t? "
Yes. It is the "white" person telling, allowing the non "white" and or "black" person where to go, what to do. A "black" person cannot monopolize the nine areas of people activity. Apparently and currently impossible. They can't reign supreme.
This perhaps is a different angle I'm giving among folks that would argue about for example, the law. How so called police officers truly "race" soldiers can give undue treatment or mistreatment to non "white" people.
Where on a mass scale now and in history have non "white" people accomplished this? Where have they accomplished the amount of mistreatment, lynchings and laws dictating on the basis of color?
"If you can prove that there is any privilege, I’ll believe you. But as for now, change my mind…"
Don't believe me. Look at the evidence. That's what you're looking for. The evidence. Evidence is what you can witness yourself. So you observe everything around you.
What do you see? Do you always see a "white" person in a high position role? I mean as a director, president, CEO, owner , etc.
Is this the privilege the "white" person has ?
Any major corporation, bank , institution, is there a "white" face as the face of that establishment?
Day to day, in your travels, place to place, in people interactions, politics, marketing, business transactions.
Why aren't a people privileged to receive reparations from those that have the privilege to give it?
Are the people without the reparations privileged compared to the ones that have receipt of reparations?
Can a people without repair be privileged as another not in need of repair ?
As Mr. Fuller would say, all problems are solved by the process of questions and answers.
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I may be willing to debate this topic with you in the future. I think we are polar opposites on this issue lol!