Gouvernement de la Grèce

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The odds of someone accused of rape being innocent: 2-10%.

The odds of someone accused of murder being innocent: 4%.

If they are found to be innocent, they are freed and paid for their service and pain during their time as a slave. However, under my rule, the BoP for the prosecution would be huge because rape is a serious crime. Unless they have enough proof, the defendant doesn't get punished. I believe facts and evidence.

If innocent people are pretty much slaves in China and the UN doesn't kick China out, I don't think they will care about the US enslaving mostly guilty rapists.

I think the death penalty for being a false accuser is too harsh unless it was a repeated offence. Life imprisonment sounds better.

Rape: You ignored my example of the NFL Linebackers falsely accused of rape. He spent 6 years in prison before she admitted to faking it? And you wan't to go back to slavery for these people. This would cause moral issues and cause us to be kicked out of the UN. THis is just transforming us into a third world country

False accuser should be executed

E Cigs: They are taxed less to encourage smokers to get off of conventional cigarettes, then to go to nicotine, and then to get off of the drug completely.

STDs: If you tax STDs, it encourages people to get their STDs treated, thereby helping the economy and improving society.

Rape: The punishment for rape should be life imprisonment as a slave in addition to having all your money taken away from you. They would also get castrated. On average, the revenue generated from the labor would total around $2 million. The rape victim gets $1 million of these. Only people convicted of rape that have enough proof brought up against them would suffer the punishment. There has to be enough proof for it to count. Rape is a serious crime and the punishment must be harsh.

Meat consumption: After doing some research, I think the meat tax is a bad idea. The other taxes seem fine though and you didn't mention most of the taxes.

That pie chart you saw showed what percentage of the taxes were sales taxes. Conservatives like sales taxes because almost everyone pays the tax. Liberals don't like these because they want the rich to pay for everything. The tax system has no income tax, no corporate tax, and no business tax. It punishes you for doing bad and neutral things that you know people will do instead of punishing you for doing good things. We need the money somehow. It sounds conservative to me. I hope the senate approves. I'll be surprised if they know it exists. It just needs popular support. If the taxes go gradually up, then people won't notice enough to create a significant black market.

Senate would not approve

Are you honestly a conservative? 77% of your taxes are left favored.

E CIGS: You're just focusing on minors and non users. People actually use E CIGS to help there nicotine addiction and smoking
STD: STD's can be genetic. So your gonna tax people based of genetics? Also you are decreasing the freedom of literally fucking and having children
RAPE: Reports have been circling around false rape allegations. A future NFL 1st round pick was falsely convicted of rape and spent 6 years in jail under the person who confessed admitted to it.

COUNTER RAPE/CRIME
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I would tax someone for falsely accusing someone and being non guilty 18M dollars. I would tax all women convincing of false accusations 18M. I would charge Jessie Smollet 90M dollars

MEAT: Ok so just tax me for eating food, great. This just means meat would go into the black market and start a disease. Listen to my debate on why meat is vital to the human body
https://www.debate.org/debates/Is-it-ethical-to-kill-animals-when-there-are-other-options-available/1/

I have all my arguments why it is good in here

I can literally point out every flaw in the tax system too...omg omg omg

Let's let the Bloods and the Crips shoot each other on the South Side of Chicago then.

And the government doesn't fund education. It's private

The Greek debt is not on the decline(https://commodity.com/debt-clock/greece/). Neither is the American debt, but it is under control. I made a spending plan to get rid of the debt within 4 years.

I never said Greece can pay it's debt all off right now. I am saying there debt is currently on the decline

And also, $6T out of the $22T of the US debt is foreign based, which is at least 30%, that is significantly high for a country not associated with any sort of Continental Group like the EU.

If Greece can pay back their debt to the extent where it is manageable, why haven't they done so yet?

Not all debt is owed to foreign countries. Much of the US debt, the US owes to it's self by investors, bond holders, etc. America almost a "continental currency program" all by it's self since the US is roughly a similar size to the EU. America's Foreign debt to GDP ratio is within a manageable range. America has yet to default. If this was true for Greece, why did they default on their loan?

Please tell me how a country with a developing economy and tech industry take just hosted the Olympics can pay back their debts after a economic recession almost as bad as the Great Depression.

The US has more debt, which means they owe more to countries than Greece. America also isn't a part of a Continental Currency Program to fund for these things.

Then whose fault is it? I think it's the governmental policies that lead to their defaulting of the debt.

Not their fault the economy crashed and EuroZone did not give them the proper funds to bounce back

"Did you not look at the chart where it talked about the debt ratio per GDP" What chart?

Greece defaulted on their debt because they couldn't afford the interest payment. I did not call Greeks lazy.

Also thanks for calling the Greeks lazy in your post. The government is working with the fuckers known as EuroZone to help fix the debt

Did you not look at the chart where it talked about the debt ratio per GDP

Most of the US debt is owed to it's self. Only about $6 Trillion is owed to any foreign country. This is about 25% of our GDP. It's rising, but interest payments are being made to avoid a debt overtaking the US. Greece defaulted on their debt.

It wasn't at the time until the crash

Let's compare US GDP/Debt % in 2008 and Greece GDP/Debt % in 2008

Greece: 109.4% of GDP (2008): Rose 6.1%
US: 99.8% of GDP (2008) Rose 13.1%

This has more of an impact than Greece, but Greece was severely effected by the crash.

Then here is the catalyst. Greece still needed to pay back it's debts, and with a struggling economy and a less developed infastructure and tech campaign that US, the debt was trending upward, and it took it's highest peak in 2016. Unlike America, they don't have big industry stores and big time job markets. It's usually little jobs they work for.

While the US GDP % is still slowing down, but still increasing, as of 2019, Greece is trending upward. They dropped a whole 2% in GDP % and are currently decreasing as of 2019. The economy is getting on track while America's debt is increasing. If the pace continues for America, by 2035, America will have the largest GDP/Debt % than Greece

The Greek debt is $411 billion. Those expenses alone did not cause the debt.

Built an entire new airport: €2.1 billion
Built an enitre new train system: "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athens_Metro"
Total Cost: $11 billion
Look at the change: "https://www.google.com/search?q=greek+debt+in+2004&oq=greek+debt+in+2004&aqs=chrome..69i57.3247j1j9&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8"

How much did the Olympics cost? I don't know if a stadium could be the sole source of the greek debt.

If NAFTA or some organization gave us money to fund the LA2028 Olympics, and expected to pay us back for it, and then the economy crashes in 2031, then we would be in higher debt and equal GDP debt than Greece

The only there is bailout funds is because the EU fucked us over during the Olympics. They gave us money to fund them in 2004 for a new airport and a metra system(things you need). Then Greece was increasing until the Great Reccession in 2007, then they declined, and those bratwurst eating scum still decided to tax us more after a reccession, even when Greece was hit very hard

I said I don't like the Greek government.

I doubt it.

Can you clarify?

Greece has a smaller economy, so them owing $400 billion in debt is more significant then a huge country like the US owing that much. The US has our foreign debt under control. I even created a tax plan that can get rid of all American foreign debt within 4 years. It's getting bigger, but it's under control. The Greek debt isn't under Greek control, which is why they have asked for bailouts from the EU.

The plan to pay off the debt is here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/136MFNyPCnOs50_QltxPvkBpS2OydnNfG7WZYb21qTrM/edit#gid=920565133

Well then Alec would like the Greek Govt. but the Greek people would hate the Greek Govt. and remove them from power. I think they'll chose to not be liked by you as the lesser evil.

I am not trying to start beef or anything. I just think your solution is really self centered

Greece only owes $500B-$1T dollars in debt. Get your facts right before you come at Greece.

I'll tell ya what. To pay back China for your debt, we will sell whatever state you are from, is that ok by you?

Many people would consider Trump unlikable. He's not my favorite president, despite being a Republican. I prefer his vice president. I think Greece needs to sell something to pay off their debt to the extent where they can manage it with interest payments.

The US has not defaulted on our debt, otherwise we wouldn't be paying interest payments to it. Most of the US debt is owed to the US government. Only about $6 Trillion of it is owed to a foreign country. I did not call the Greeks lazy.

No, but we keep coming close with increasing frequency. Donald Trump has defaulted on debt at least three times, is Trump therefore unlikable? Would you have ejected Greece from Europe?

Then you hate the US then.

And the US has. it's adding up by the ton to 21B. The Americans just scapegoat us as lazy

The US gov hasn't defaulted on our debt. Greece has.

So does the US. Do you therefore not like the US Govt?

I don't like the Greek government because they have a huge debt problem.

I took it in high school but I'm sort at "The Little Prince" reading level. We should do a debate type where you have to translate your text into 3 languages and then translate it back to English to see how legible the argument remains.

J'apprécierais un débat en français bien que ma grammaire ait toujours été faible. Je compte beaucoup sur Google.

oh it's french, idk that stuff

is this spanish?

que significa para la gouvernmente para grece?

Quel est ce débat spécifiquement?

Ce débat se déroulera-t-il en français?

something Greek here, Dudz