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The Carnivore Diet Is Stupid

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The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

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After 6 votes and with 37 points ahead, the winner is...

FishChaser
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Don't be a monkey's ass cheek, if you try to argue that carnivore diet can't be "stupid" because diets don't have cognitive faculties you auto-lose. What I mean by "stupid" is that it's a stupid idea to adopt a carnivore diet, that it is bad for you and that arguments favoring the carnivore diet are stupid ones used by stupid people.

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@fauxlaw

"How am I poorer in consumption of meat"

I already told you. Meat costs more money. So logically, you would have more money if you were vegan. Not sure how this basic math confuses you. Also, by directing production to produce meat, you are producing economically less effective product.

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@Best.Korea

No, you miss my point. How am I poorer in consumption of meat when it it is no sacrifice to my pocket for its procuration? When a month is done, and my procurations, obligatory and discretionary, have not depleted my increase, but have increased above and beyond expense? That’s called continuous creation of wealth; a status enduring longer than any political, social, or economic Marxism, for that systemic mode merely spends, but knows not creation of personal wealth, and never will as long as the self denies himself the ambition, planning, and execution of that wealth, just because the mirror tells you, “You cannot.”

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@fauxlaw

"Poverty, for many, is a choice"

Yes, a choice to eat meat makes everyone poorer. Not sure what is confusing you.

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@Best.Korea

Then your issue is economic, not culinary, and has little to do with relative intelligence. Poverty, for many, is a choice to want wealth, and act accordingly, or not, and don’t. What’s stopping you? I’ll tell you: your mirror. That guy is your only nemesis.

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@fauxlaw

Meat is very expensive. It is economically stupid to eat or produce meat. Only a person who wants to increase poverty in his country would eat meat. I eat meat too, but I understand that its completely retarded.

Absurd. We humans are, by design, having been given canine teeth, and salivary amylase, an enzyme released in the mouth and stomach to breakdown complex protein ]meat] and carbohydrates, seems we were designed to be omnivores. Natural and cultivated wetlands, streams, rivers, lakes and oceans produce more atmospheric Methane than do cows, according to a 1980s Columbia University study. Vegans, go ahead and eat your rice [I eat it, too], but. leave my filet mignon alone.

What's wylted and a pig have in common?

4feet

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@Greyparrot
@Barney
@whiteflame
@ILikePie5
@FLRW

Anyone want to vote on this? UNFORTUNATELY Wylted couldn't defend his position but who can blame him when his side is impossible to defend.

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@FishChaser

Bro you are saying the other way around, large intestine is in herbivorous and small intestine is in carnivorous the longer one. Also omnivorous has both intestine but both are longer one.
Herbivorous has large intestine very long but small very short.
Carnivorous has small longer and large shorter.
Omnivorous has both longer.

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@tigerlord

Don't oversimplify things, our large intestine is way larger than that of an obligate carnivore and how do you know that our digestive tract hasn't changed due to cooking our food resulting in us losing certain "herbivore" traits? Also the small intestine of many herbivores is longer than the large intestine.

We have both small, intestine and large intestine, our small intestine is longer then large intestine. So we need more carnivorous diet then herbivorous diet. But if we eat only meat the our large intestine bacteria will starve. which is our almost 70% immune system. Those bacteria are vital for our health. Being omnivorous it's inivetable for us to consume both and vital.

I kindly ask you to post your arguments quickly, even at the cost of quality because that's what I will be doing as well

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@FishChaser

I also like chocolate. I couldnt go on animal products alone. I started building muscles. Muscles are made from calories, water and air, so I need to eat more calories, drink more water and breathe more air with proper breathing so that I get bigger muscles.

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@Best.Korea

This debate isn't about whether meat is included in your diet in general, it's about the extreme diet called the carnivore diet where they literally don't consume any plat foods at all.

Is there more protein in meat? Yes. Is that protein more bioavailable and "complete" ? Yes. If you only want to be strong regardless of if it is more healthy, you would be better off including meat in your diet. But is it healthier to have meat in your diet or not, and how much? I honestly don't know, the more I learn about nutrition the less confident I am about making blanket statements about certain things. What I know for sure though is that the carnivore diet is one of the worst diets on earth.

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@FishChaser

I eat what I like, even if its not healthy. I want to grow big and strong, and have muscles. For that, I need calories and protein, which I would prefer not to get from walnuts but something more tasty like meat or milk.