Instigator / Pro
0
1233
rating
403
debates
39.45%
won
Topic
#5857

We should achieve equality, even if it makes everyone extremely poor or living a horrible life

Status
Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics
Winner
0
2

After 2 votes and with 2 points ahead, the winner is...

KMA0017
Parameters
Publication date
Last updated date
Type
Standard
Number of rounds
1
Time for argument
Two weeks
Max argument characters
10,000
Voting period
One month
Point system
Winner selection
Voting system
Open
Contender / Con
2
1500
rating
3
debates
50.0%
won
Description

No information

Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Winner
1 point(s)
Reason:

Pro
I wish you had more rounds to this debate, while I 'understand your arguments, a single round leaves you way to open to attacks by Con.

Con
Counters Pros use of the word best,
Though I 'think one might assume Pro means the best state of affairs for/between humans.

I think it's fair to view some values as self evident (Subjectively)
Such as not being in horrible agony is good.
. . Still Con makes a good point, and leaves one wondering what Pro 'means by equality?
Financially, Biologically?

Some people are fond of Deontological Ethics.
Even if society as a whole is better, people don't always like stepping on others.
Course, sometimes just raising one person, can raise everyone, often a reason people want equality is from the people higher up forcing others down, if the ones higher up are lifting the people down low up, maybe they don't 'want the equality as much.

Final Thoughts
Pro was lacking in explanation of what they 'meant by equality, what would their equality look like? Do they have an example?

Con wins due to deconstructing several of Pros arguments such as best, and whether people would be better off (legs).

Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Winner
1 point(s)
Reason:

Pro doesn't defend P1 very strongly, which gives Con room to come in with a counterexample. Mostly this debate is Pro making sweeping statements and Con pointing out exceptions.