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Topic
#5809

The Christian God is a Cruel God

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Religion
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Number of rounds
4
Time for argument
One week
Max argument characters
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One month
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Description

In this debate we will use definitions from Merriam Webster.

We'll also assume that the events and rules in the bible can be taken literally in all aspects, unless it implicitly states otherwise, though we will not assume that any moral teachings or similar is true, so obviously things like "god is good" because that's the point of this debate.

Ask questions in the comments of course.

Round 1
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Owen_T
Pro
#1
The bible lays it out pretty clearly. 

  • “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the father except through me.” (John 14:6)
  • “For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God—not by works, so that no one can boast.” (Ephesians 2:8-9)
  • “Therefore, since we have been justified through faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ.” (Romans 5:1)
It is not your needs nor your morality that get you into heaven. It is your willingness to comply with God. The bible also makes it clear that not going to heaven (going to hell) is an eternal and painful experience:

  • “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.’” (Matthew 25:41)
  • “The smoke of their torment will rise forever and ever. There will be no rest day or night.” (Revelation 14:11)
  • “Anyone whose name was not found written in the book of life was thrown into the lake of fire.” (Revelation 20:15)

    • The bible says that an amazing person who has devoted their life to the greater good, and also happens to be bundist, will be tortured for literal eternity. I fail to see how that is something a loving god would do. Infact, I think that is something a very cruel god would do.
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