I believe my opponent may not have grasped the scale of 1 billion lions. Like with a billion of anything, 1,000,000,000 lions is a very difficult amount to conceptualize.
So, in an effort to better our understanding of this number, let us begin with 10. A row of ten lions standing in front of you certainly ordinarily wouldn't be a welcome sight outside of zoos, but for dozens of deific mons, there would of course be no contest.
Then let us imagine ten rows of ten lions. A centuria of lions would of course be a terrifying sight to us. But still, to these mons, we can expect them to worry more about what they'll have for lunch.
Then let us imagine 10 of these miniature armies of lions in a line. I have no doubt the only issue for the mons would be the resulting PETA lawsuit.
Even adding 10 more of these lines of miniature armies brings no significant difficulties, I'm sure, as we've only just matched the amount of Uruk-hai sent to invade Helm's Deep. Still, we've barely scratched the surface on one billion and we're already witnessing a large lake of golden fur.
Ten such lakes should be able to surround the mons for as far as the eye can see in many situations.
And I think if we multiply that by ten again, an ocean of teeth and claws should be a good description. Should the mons ever make a fatal mistake (as it seems likely many would in the duration required to clear out one million lions, even with the abilities mentioned by my opponent), they would be devoured in mere moments.
Now we can take that one million lions, enough to cover every bit of land around you even in a very large, flat place, and we can multiply it by ten again. These mons must then deal with such a massive army ten times over, plausibly extending the battle for hours, exhausting and demoralizing the mons who stayed alive and witnessed so many of their comrades die. The lions who are slowed, paralyzed, possessed, poisoned or weakened would be trampled and used as the new battlefield by the many, many thousands of lions waiting to get in on the action.
And we can multiply it by ten again, and again. The battle would take days, and flying mons would begin falling out of the sky from exhaustion. Those which are underground or in space would either have to come back at some point or face that the mons, as a whole, have been defeated, despite their narrow escape.
Now is where things get interesting, what counts as a lion? Surely a trained lion would still be a lion, as would one with a prosthetic limb. There's nothing in the debate descriptions precluding these lions from being cyborgs, enhancing their abilities in fantastic ways. Of course we could say the same of the mons, but there would be many, many more lions than mons, so this would likely still benefit the lions a great deal.
As for the abilities that can supposedly easily get rid of the lions, we need specific stats to understand what effect they would have on the overarching battle.
- How many lions can the ghost type mons scare/traumatize at once?
- How large were the 40 day storms? How high speed are the winds? How many lions is a "bunch"? How many times can those wings be flapped?
- Does the surf attack apply to battles involving many millions of opponents?
- How big are the portals that Hoopa can open? Can they be moved? How many can be opened? Etc.
- How many people can Giratina trap in the alternate dimension in such a short period?
challenge accepted
I'm joining this debate fully expecting to lose, but it sounds kind of interesting and I'd love to learn about the god-like pokemon(s?).
The real question is when you take out all the legendaries, then who wins? I still say the Pokemon, but in that case you could make an argument for the lions.