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Topic
#5730
Schools should be abolished
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The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.
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After 3 votes and with 10 points ahead, the winner is...
itsnotago
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Round 1
Yeah, they should be abolished.
Schools make knowledge, which makes weapons, cars, junk food, poisons, chemicals, pollution and vaccines. Those hurt people, nature.
Most of the things you mentioned can be good but also bad, it's just a matter of how you use them. I can provide an example for every element you mentioned but i will just take three as examples:
1)Cars: Make going from Point A to Point B much easier and faster but their gasses harm nature (may i remind you of the invention of electric cars?)
2) Junk food: If eaten only once in a while, it can be a tasty and cheap alternative to homemade food since not everybody has the time or money to cook at home
3) Chemicals: Some are toxic and dangerous but when used correctly, facilitate our life
Conclusion: It isn't school and knowledge that are bad and dangerous but people with malicious intentions that take advantage of knowledge to make the world a worse place. School, for example, doesn't teach you how to make guns or procure poison but if you stretch every single knowledge u gain from school, you may find one that makes the world a worse place. That's not the school's fault, it is yours,
Besides, Knowledge is exactly what led to human evolution.
What do you do when you wake up? Do you look at trees or birds flying in the air? No, i don't think so. You most probably fire up the computer and watch videos like everyone else does. What led to the creation of computers and technology in general? KNOWLEDGE
Without knowledge, nearly everything you use and take for granted wouldn't exist
Round 2
Do you agree that knowledge can be used to make harmful things?
Do you agree that knowledge can be used to make harmful things?
Yes, i can in some cases but the cases in which it is used for harmless things outweigh the opposite. Everything in the world came as a result of knowledge being put to use. This platform is a result of technological knowledge namely
Besides, as i said, it is people with wrong mindsets and malicious intentions that twist knowledge in order to create harmful things. It is only people that possess these qualities that make them and they're about 1% of the whole population.
School didn't make them the sick-twisted people they are and neither did it teach anyone how to make harmful things. For example, it doesn't use chemistry and physics to teach us how to make bombs and guns.
It basically says: "I'll provide you a variety of resources and it is up to you if you choose to make good or bad out of them"
It never is the school's fault. Infact, when a student uses a gun or smth dangerous, the student isn't congratulated by the schools, it is expelled since this type of behavior isn't tolerated in school.
School is a healthy place where you go and learn, you also make friendships along the way
It wouldn't work if we didn't have schools because to gain knowledge we would all have to be homeschooled and this is not possible.
Some families can't pay for this type of private education but the students also miss out on so much: They miss out on friendship, they miss out on experiences you can only get from school, like performing an experiment in chemistry or playing hide n'seek at recess with their schoolfriends.
Do you want to sacrifice all this just because some people don't use school for the right reasons? What about the students that actually do?
You want to condemn all these people to a dull, dystopic and yet costly learning experience?
You talk about how knowledge harms humanity but do you actually care about humanity by depriving it of so many things?
Or do you want us all to be dumb and unknowledgeable so that the world stops evolving and we actually regress to primal ages?
Round 3
Without knowledge, there is no way to use it for harm. We need return of time when one didnt have any information being wrongly applied.
Without knowledge we would harm each other even more because if we regressed to primal times and lost all elements of civilisation which comes from knowledge, we would start killing and harming each other as doing such things is in our nature and our primal insticts.
However, you still don't get the point do you?
You advocate for abolishing schools and essentially abolishing knowledge but if we did that, the human species would stop evolving and that would have giant consequences on our day to day life because everything we do and have is based on either our own or somebody else's knowledge being put to use. This whole site is based on technological knowledge, so you wouldn't be able to debate on this site like you so happily are doing right now.
In conclusion, abolishing schools and therefore abolishing knowledge would harm us even more than we are harming ourselves currently because knowledge in most cases prevents harm and makes the world a better place.
You could argue that knowledge can be used wrongly which is totally true but you're not, you're actually proposing that we stop the flow of knowledge altogether just because a teeny tiny number of people uses it in a wrong way which is not a strong enough argument to implement such a major, revolutionary change
I haven't read many debates and you seem to debate on topics I am interested in.
We can agree at that.
Okay, I guess we can leave it at that. Its okay if you disagree with me. I just dont see how I am the only person you disagree with, but maybe I am missing something.
Anyway, person can be both good and evil. I dont think its beneficial to be completely good. Its best to be both good and evil.
Did you read what I said at all? I’m not restating myself as it would be the third or fourth time, but I suggest you go reread my reasons on why someone can be evil even without knowledge.
And again, I’m not stalking you. The world doesn’t revolve around you. I don’t care if you know black magic because I don’t believe in it. Just because you’re the only person I’ve messaged doesn’t mean that I’m stalking you. The only reasons you’re the only person I’ve messaged is because I just made my account yesterday, and because you’re simply the only person I disagree with at the moment.
"One can be evil without knowledge"
No, you cant be evil without knowledge, since without knowledge, it is not possible to choose nor want to do something, thus being evil is impossible.
Also, you should probably talk to people other than me. I really dont like when people stalk me. I must warn you that I have great knowledge in the arts of black magic.
One can be evil without knowledge, they will just be unaware that they’re being evil.
One with knowledge knows they are evil, and that’s not entirely the schools fault. It’s the person’s fault for being evil in the first place. The reason they are evil could be parents, bullies, siblings, or other things. Being educated is not a bad thing.
If someone is evil and uses knowledge from school to execute any cruel activities, then it’s not the school’s fault, it’s the person’s fault for being evil.
And as for you being the only person I have interacted with, I just made an account yesterday and have only interacted with you twice. That’s not a crazy amount, and I can’t participate in rated debates, so I just comment. Assuming I am stalking you because of that is selfish. The world doesn’t revolve around you.
If person refuses to learn anything, then he cannot be evil since he wont have any knowledge. To be evil requires knowledge.
But schools give knowledge which is used for evil, so schools should be abolished.
Also, I notice that I am the only person you talk to on this site. Is everyone else boring or are you a stalker?
Refusing to learn and learning can both enable people to be evil.
If one doesn't learn, then they don't know what evil is and they don't know whether they're being evil or not because they chose not to learn.
If one does learn what being evil is and chooses to be evil using the knowledge they gained from school, that doesn't make the school the bad one, it makes that person evil, not the school.
So since refusing to learn isnt evil, and knowledge enables people to be evil, we can say that schools should be abolished.
I never said that refusing to learn anything makes you evil. Refusing to learn isn't evil, it's just stupid.
Why would you want to live your life as an idiot when you could get an education?
My point is that schools shouldn't be abolished because the knowledge from them is the reason many people are alive to this day.
Okay, so since helping others is not moral duty, then nothing makes you evil if you refuse to learn anything.
Of course, it's not a duty, not everyone works in the medical field.
But without knowledge, it would be impossible for anyone to care for people with illnesses or help anyone in general.
So yes, it's not a duty for people to help others because that's not what everyone wants to do, but some people need help, and without knowledge, there's no way to get care.
All jobs require some knowledge that is provided by school.
Without school, there is no knowledge. Without knowledge, there is nothing.
Thats irrelevant, as people have no moral duty to heal others.
"Without knowledge, there is no way to use it for harm."
There's no way to heal without knowledge either.
"Pro didn't counter any of pros points"
Sorry, I forgot to counter my own points lol