Given a Competent School, for an Average Student, a standard of 90% or higher on tests is Reasonable
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For a guy like me who scores normally B's and even C's, I'm playing some fun Devil's Advocates. This is the "Tiger mom" approach where you accept nothing less than the best.
Burden of Proof is Shared
(For any test NOT scored out of 100, I just mean you have to get 90% of questions right, or better than 90%.)
Con argues: the Standard to expect a 90/100 and higher is Unreasonable
Whose Standards? A standard set by yourself, or perhaps by parents. It doesn't mean you fail the class with anything less than 90, it is more of an expectation, kind of like a "you SHOULD score this high". I will mainly be arguing that scoring anything lower, should feel unacceptable, to try to encourage the student to work harder.
A competent school means the teacher actually thoroughly teaches everything, all the answers in tests should be able to be found in textbooks, in lectures, or in the online class material, if any is given. The "average" student is just most students, students who don't have disabilities or mental issues preventing standard learning.
...the world's most important jobs demand perfection.
...the fast food worker messed up ...a massive $60 billion shift if my standards change...
...out of 1.4 billion driver we would have 140000 deaths...
...there seems to be no reason to score low... If every question can be answered simply by looking back on a certain page...
- PRO dismissively describes one of the most vital aspects of our society as "simple".
- >90% requires a student to do more than "memorize and understand the info." It requires critical analysis, synthesis and skill. (See here for full list.)
- "...by simply looking back on a certain page..." Exams aren't open book. Answers can't be verbatim taken from a textbook.
- "...and become a better person." An awful, toxic concept. Better exam scores do not change your worth as a human being.
- "...result in a slippery slope?" Classic slippery slope fallacy.
- "....standard shouldn't be arbitrarily low..." 90% is an arbitrarily high standard. Why not 89% or 91.5%? 90% is arbitrary too.
"GPA >3.5 would be the best... As you can see, the standards of the world clearly show that the 90% or higher standard is reasonable for the "average person".
'90% in this context is reasonable, so a standard of 90% is reasonable for student's exams too.'
Educating the mind without educating the heart is no education at all. - Aristotle
- There are several studies that show how damaging and ineffective the "Tiger Mom" approach to parenting is. (1, 2, 3.)
- When studies show that this approach is ineffective, it is unreasonable to utilize it - especially when it causes undue harm.
- Research shows a supportive approach is more effective. (4, 5.)
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I doubt this is what you are arguing, but I think that we should adopt a completely holistic approach to grading where the average student should be expected to get a 50 where getting a 90 or above is reserved for the most exceptional work.
Maybe in america it's easier to get good grades. If you make one mistake on an average highschool european test, you will lose 15%
I guess one can want more slavery in schools.
To get into Grad School, I needed my undergraduate grades to average out to about that.
The downside I see, is that if 90% was the passing standard, it would not allow flexibility of having a mediocre performance at any one class canceled out by higher ones. Also with that in mind, an angry teacher would have more power.
There are of course advantages in pushing people to do better.
you two seem like people who want to score absurdly high on tests. What do you think of this topic?