Instigator / Pro
18
1584
rating
29
debates
70.69%
won
Topic
#5704

Money can buy happiness

Status
Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics
Better arguments
6
3
Better sources
6
6
Better legibility
3
3
Better conduct
3
3

After 3 votes and with 3 points ahead, the winner is...

Moozer325
Parameters
Publication date
Last updated date
Type
Standard
Number of rounds
2
Time for argument
Three days
Max argument characters
10,000
Voting period
One month
Point system
Multiple criterions
Voting system
Open
Contender / Con
15
1515
rating
10
debates
50.0%
won
Description

Half troll debate, half serious, so don’t read too much into it.

Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Better arguments
3 point(s)
Better sources
2 point(s)
Better legibility
1 point(s)
Better conduct
1 point(s)
Reason:

This debate really boils down to how literally one wants to interpret the resolution. Pro argues that money can buy happiness both literally (through the purchase of dopamine) and vicariously (through the purchase of goods that bring us happiness). After getting pushback on the dopamine argument, Pro never revisits it, so I will not consider that point when determining my vote. Other than that point, there was a bit of back and forth over Con's coffee maker analogy. While I personally found the analogy dubious, non of Pro's retorts adequately rebutted it. He kept reasserting that things you buy give you happiness vicariously, but that does not address the analogy. Indeed, something can give you happiness like a coffee maker gives coffee, but buying a coffee maker does not suddenly provide the coffee, it is just a vehicle to create it. Pro's inability to address this analogy is why I am siding with Con.

Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Better arguments
3 point(s)
Better sources
2 point(s)
Better legibility
1 point(s)
Better conduct
1 point(s)
Reason:

The debate was interesting as Pro, and Con made valid points. However, what made me choose Pro's argument is that their stance is that buying things indirectly buy happiness by getting you things that make you happy. While Con does try to say that buying things only facilities happiness, the argument itself is more in favor of Pro's position. Con Should have tried to argue from different angels; like claiming that true happiness is not defined by things you buy. They unfortunately did not in this case and that cost them the vote.

Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Better arguments
3 point(s)
Better sources
2 point(s)
Better legibility
1 point(s)
Better conduct
1 point(s)
Reason:

The point that "you buy things for the purpose of making you happy" is true. Even though it is indirect, it makes you happy; therefore you are buying happiness.