Instigator / Pro
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rating
357
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Topic
#5683
In most cases, abortion should be legal
Status
Finished
The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.
Winner & statistics
After 1 vote and with 3 points ahead, the winner is...
Best.Korea
Parameters
- Publication date
- Last updated date
- Type
- Rated
- Number of rounds
- 3
- Time for argument
- One week
- Max argument characters
- 10,000
- Voting period
- One month
- Point system
- Multiple criterions
- Voting system
- Open
- Minimal rating
- None
Contender / Con
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1511
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Description
Abortion definition:
When a pregnant woman willingly terminates her pregnancy.
You agree to this definition if you accept the debate.
Round 1
1. Body ownership is important to most people. Fetus has no right to use woman's body against woman's will.
2. World is a cruel place filled with pain. Giving birth does not guarantee good life, but pain is guaranteed.
3. Women who dont want children likely wouldnt provide them good care if they were forced to have children.
4. Most people support legal abortion in most cases. Democracy is the best governing system, meaning abortion should be legal.
5. Abortion helps with overpopulation. Overpopulation is a big problem which could result in breaking of society and global war.
6. Abortion reduces crime. It is well established that all types of crime are reduced after abortion is legalized.
7. Abortion is by result no different from contraception. Both result in person not being born and not living.
8. Unborn is not same as born person. Unborn has much less chance to survive than born person does.
9. Woman has no obligation to give birth. Non-pregnant woman has no such obligation, so neither does pregnant woman.
10. Abortion is safer for woman than giving birth. Woman doesnt have duty to risk her life for others.
11. Abortion reduces number of children in foster care. Children in foster care are more abused, turn more violent.
12. Abortion helps prevent abuse of women because it promotes women's rights, denying that women are mere baby factories.
13. Abortion allows for resources to be focused on children who are much more likely to have a good life.
14. Abortion helps save resources and focus them where their use has better success rate, which improves total economy.
15. Banning abortion means many women will seek illegal abortions instead, and end up harming themselves and their health.
16. Banning abortion increases price of abortion since it reduces competition, thus it increases poverty. Poverty adds to crime.
17. Planet has limited resources. People cannot increase their numbers forever, but increasing numbers now increases poverty even further.
18. Banning abortion affects poor people much more. Wealthy have enough money to still get safe abortions by traveling.
19. Banning abortions causes money to leave country, since wealthy people travel to other countries to pay for abortion.
20. Banning abortion also causes less money to come in, since people stop travel to that country for abortion.
21. Abortion reduces amount of pain in the world, since it reduces creation of abused persons and creation of pain.
22. Pain has the highest priority to be prevented. Pain is highest negative value. Preventing pain is highest positive value.
23. Forcing others to live life in pain is morally much worse than simply not producing such people anymore.
24. The most important thing for people is what people want. People want to not live in pain, abuse, poverty.
25. Creating more life is not always good. There should be better life, not forced, painful and miserable life.
26. Abortion ban increases prison population, which reduces workforce and reduces economy, which further adds to poverty and crime.
27. Banning abortion doesnt improve quality of life of born people, but harms it through crimes like murder, violence.
28. Abortion reduces birth defects. Some countries have even almost eradicated down syndrome thanks to abortion, improving people's lives.
29. We cant produce infinite people. We should focus on producing those people who will have high quality lives.
30. If there is less crime, abuse and poverty, then society is more likely to survive, enjoy and prosper.
31. Banning abortion doesnt significantly decrease abortion rates, so it fails to accomplish its primary and most important goal.
32. Illegal abortion is mass crime. Mass crimes arent worthy of severe punishment due to lack of cost efficiency.
33. It would be immoral to create person only to burn him alive. Yet banning abortion creates exactly that.
34. Woman did not consent to risk of pregnancy, otherwise giving birth is consenting to risk of producing criminals.
35. People want to live life in freedom and joy. Legalizing abortions increases both for born people. Banning doesnt.
36. Fetus depends on mother and endangers her life. It is not a separate being that can live without mother.
37. It is wrong to rape a woman to force her to give birth, even if doing so increases life.
38. Women feel urge for sex which they didnt choose, and not completing that urge would cause mental suffering.
39. Sex is healthy. Enabling safe sex improves health. Abortion enables safe sex, since contraception alone dont always work.
40. It is pointless to say "dont have sex to prevent pregnancy". Abortion stops pregnancy in same way anyway.
41. Unborn is different from born person, so unborn cannot be treated same. We dont give sperm any rights.
42. Sperm turns into person if concatreption isnt present. Yet we dont see contraception as killing of an actual person.
43. Contraception is used to prevent a person from being born. Abortion is used to prevent a person from being born.
44. Since unborn is less likely to survive, its rights can only be less than that of pregnant woman.
45. Raising a kid costs hundreds of thousands of dollars. No point in that if kid wont have a good life.
46. Life itself isnt valuable if lived in pain. Would you agree to live but be burned alive daily?
47. Trash and pollution are increased by increasing population. We can no longer afford to increase trash and pollution.
48. Banning abortion increases society's pressure on women, which causes women more stress and makes their life more difficult.
49. Body ownership is necessary for free speech. Any position which violates body violates free speech, thus violates debate.
50. Body ownership is necessary to increase knowledge, which is crucial for reaching truth. High quality life increases knowledge.
51. Abortion kills unborn, but abortion ban kills born people and ruins their life, while not reducing abortion significantly.
52. There is no benefit for society to give rights to unborn and to prefer them over born people.
53. The goal is acceptance and making society be good for as much people as possible, not to ruin lives.
54. Banning abortions creates contradictions which harm peace, since law doesnt represent wishes of majority who wants abortion legal.
55. Most advanced countries are mostly those with abortion legal. Countries with abortion banned didnt prosper in any comparison.
56. People dont want to just exist. They want a successful happy and free life. Banning abortion doesnt produce that.
57. Abortion creates equality between men and women. Men can already have sex without constantly worrying of getting pregnant.
58. Banning abortions increases number of disorders and defects in society, which in long term multiply and drain society.
59. Survival of fittest is basis for progress. Allowing abortions means those who are fit to reproduce reproduce more.
60. No access to abortion makes woman depend on abusive husband because she cant work due to being pregnant.
61. Banning abortions increases chance of civil war. It creates children who are more violent due to being neglected.
62. Even if all abortions were prevented, it means population has to work more to support increased non-working population.
63. Education resources are limited, and even most children born due to abortion ban wouldnt have good education available.
64. Abortion ban reduces knowledge, since it uses limited educational resources at area where there is worse success rate.
65. Banning abortion doesnt stop at mere banning of abortion. By consistency, it again reduces women to baby factories.
66. Woman who has abortion doesnt reduce life. She simply doesnt produce life, same as when not having sex.
67. Life without freedom is useless. Freedom to get what you want the most is what makes life worthy living.
68. You cant own women. Fetus depends on woman, but fetus doesnt own, doesnt gain rights to, woman's body.
69. Morality is the middle man for goals. Our goals are smart and free society. Banning abortion doesnt achieve that.
70. Legal abortions are strongly linked to higher life expectancy as well as for women's other rights being upheld.
71. Banning abortion isnt free. Government would have to invest significant resources to hunt down those who do abortions.
72. Banning abortion would cause young girls to be also banned from having abortion, and forced to give birth.
73. Fetus drains woman's body. People, fetus or born, dont have right to steal from others to sustain themselves.
74. Fetus is part of woman's body. Its not an independent part that can grow on its own by itself.
75. Woman provides food for the fetus. Woman has a right to stop providing food to fetus by means of abortion.
76. There is no any difference for fetus if its not created or if its created and aborted early.
77. Medical treatment for non-viable pregnancies is often same as abortion. Miscarriage is often similar to abortion in results.
78. Ban on abortion harms all non-abortion services which are too similar to abortion. Law cant actually enforce the ban.
79. Abortion ban would cause young women to be forced to raise kids and drop out of college/school.
80. Women denied abortion are much more likely to become single mothers later. Single mothers raise much more criminals.
81. Abortion being legal means abortion improves constantly over time with research in safety. Abortion being banned prevents this.
82. Legal abortions means that anyone who is against abortion can focus more on spreading education instead of force.
83. Legal abortions means abortion rates decrease over time. Education becomes key. Free women learn and make better decisions.
84. Legal abortions support rights such as euthanasia. The arguments against abortion are used against euthanasia. Euthanasia is a crucial right.
85. Banning abortion harms fertility. Women who resort to illegal abortions are more likely to die, which harms reproduction.
86. Fetuses in first trimester dont feel pain. They were never conscious. They never had their own future goals.
87. Banning abortion means that rape victims would be denied of abortion, since same arguments of banning abortion apply.
88. There is no argument for abortion ban which doesnt ban abortions in cases like incest, rape, severe defects...
89. Arguments for abortion ban also harm other body rights such as gender surgeries and a choice to not reproduce.
90. Allowing abortions was never proven to harm society in any way. There is no bad outcome of legalization.
91. The line must be drawn where rights are gained. Born people are priority. Born people must be more protected.
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Round 2
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Round 3
I guess this debate wont go anywhere. Still, if anyone wants a debate on abortion, I have to say I dont have any sources ready. Its a bit hard to prepare 50 sources, and I am on smartphone.
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Yes, but sadly I was out of characters heh
If only you added 9 more reasons, then you could have said 100 reasons why.
I can only do standard, but I only need to do one standard debate without forfeits to do rated so we can do a separate standard debate
I will try very hard in this debate.