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Women are only attracted to your SMV, not who you are as a person
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After 2 votes and with 4 points ahead, the winner is...
FishChaser
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'eugenics machines who see you as subhuman' - at what point are you really the problem?
do YOU have a concrete example, infact multiple, where this has directly happened to you or related to you? what about somebody else?
If women arent reliable, despite likely having tangible evidence besides themselves (I have mentioned they are around other women, who may or may not be true to their statements), then how so men? Men arent around women all the time.
Since you want concrete examples, that I will provide in the debate you invited me to.
Women are not reliable sources on how women think and behave unless they provide tangible evidence because women always say things that they don't do in practice. When women say personality is what matters, what they really mean is they want a tall handsome guy who also isn't a piece of shit. This of course is only in theory because in practice women not only chase tall, handsome guys but they also put up with or even get off to their toxic personalities just because they are tall/handsome.
Expecting women or even men to necessarily understand how their gender thinks just because they are that gender is like expecting someone with a mental disorder to diagnose and treat their own illness without a background in psychology and calling them an expert just because they have that disorder.
Dont worry, I am 50% woman, plus I have example of anime girls.
If a woman were to be in the debate, she can use herself as evidence against what you said, as well as providing experience of what she sees, since she would be around other women. And her, having similar anatomy and thinking patterns as dictated by culture, can understand where a woman might be coming from.
For example, you can argue women are paranoid because they always bring pepper spray with them.
A woman can explain her experience, as well as other women's on why they bring pepper spray everywhere. Because its dangerous, especially in the city, and if she's alone, she'll probs want more than pepper spray.
Your statement is quite generalized without any exceptions, so any woman, should she be in a debate, can provide examples that dont support that.
If the debaters are men, they can only assume the reasoning behind everything "women" as a collective group do. Even other women would have to assume a little bit, but at least they're more likely to be correct. Imagine if two women were to debate on why men always treat their gfs so badly. Since they're not men, it's unfair. What would they know about being a man and what culture expects of them?
Dude forgot that anime girls exist 😭
I disagree because a women simply saying something about herself or other women does not count as an argument, nor are her arguments more valid due to being a woman. I have seen evidence of women putting men on a pedestal for the most shallow reasons possible and I have never seen evidence of a woman treating a man as if his SMV is higher than it is because she values his personality just as much if not more than his SMV.
I have seen evidence of women dating guys with low SMV, but this is not evidence of valuing them equally relative to how they would value them if they were more attractive in superficial ways.
Ultimately if I am wrong, it should be possible for a man to be seen as a 10/10 to an individual woman without him actually being particularly tall or handsome etc.
Unless if a woman is on either side of the debate, I dont think this debate is fair