Instigator / Pro

njk25

1500

rating

debates

31.25%

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Topic

#5593

Religion is completely useless in modern society.

Status

Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics

Winner

After 1 vote and with 1 point ahead, the winner is...

njk25

Tags

Society

Religion

Parameters

Publication date: 07.18.2024 05:49PM
Last updated date: 08.02.2024 12:43PM
Type: Standard
Number of rounds: 4
Time for argument: One week
Max argument characters: 10,000
Voting period: Two weeks
Point system: Winner selection
Voting system: Open

Contender / Con

Best.Korea

1280

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352

debates

39.91%

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Round 1

njk25

07.19.2024 03:23AM

Pro

I think the institution of religion was a great idea in a pre industrial society since

1) It helped people understand the world around them, and deal with the uncertainty of not knowing, for example religion answered big questions on how the world works

2) Religion gave people a way to deal with emotional distress, by giving them false hope that a benevolent invisible diety will take care of all their misfortunes and forgive them for all their wrongdoings

3)It gave them a sense of belonging, to a particular group, since in the olden days most of the times the most important thing that held society together was religion

But in the modern society we have way better alternatives to religion such as-

1) science can correctly and objectively answer questions about the nature of reality, and these answers are provable and objective unlike religion in which we need to "have faith" , which basically boils down to believing whatever a person(like a priest, scripture etc)assumes is true.

2) We have psychiatry and medicine to help with things like depression

3) The sense of belonging is often exploited by politicians to get what they want and do horrible things in the name of religion.

Hence I think that although religion was usefull in a pre modern society, we have far outgrown it for it to be of any use, in a similar fashion as chemistry is superior to alchemy in every imaginable way

Best.Korea

07.19.2024 11:40AM

Con

I can use Satanic rituals to get what I want and become more powerful.

Round 2

njk25

07.19.2024 11:56AM

Pro

Nonsensical argument

Best.Korea

07.19.2024 11:59AM

Con

The devil only talks to those he loves. He loves me. He doesnt love you.

Round 3

njk25

07.19.2024 12:03PM

Pro

And the nonsense continues..

Best.Korea

07.19.2024 12:13PM

Con

You just havent tried to be a satanist, so you are unaware of the benefits.

Round 4

njk25

07.19.2024 12:42PM

Pro

Completely irrelevant, not related to the topic

Best.Korea

07.19.2024 12:43PM

Con

You can resist as much as you want. In the end, you will succumb to him.

Oh Satan, accept the allegiance of my opponent in this debate. Guide him to your dark kingdom. Show him your greatness, mighty endless Satan.

Best.Korea

07.18.2024 06:59PM

I can use Satanic rituals to get what I want and become more powerful.

Casey_Risk

07.18.2024 06:16PM

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@njk25

Dude, you JUST created this debate. Chill out

Moozer325

07.18.2024 06:15PM

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@njk25

I’d accept if I had the time. Anytime after July 28 I’m available, so if no one has accepted by then, I’m in.

njk25

07.18.2024 06:11PM

Come on guys, you scared of a newbie?

njk25

07.18.2024 06:11PM

This shall be my first debate

Barney

07.19.2024 05:27PM

Criterion

Pro

Tie

Con

Points

Winner

1 point(s)

Reason:

Had con been a critical troll, he could have taken this.

"3) The sense of belonging is often exploited by politicians to get what they want and do horrible things in the name of religion."

He could have leaned on that, as it's very useful for corrupt politicians. The satanism argument was funny, but no benefit was demonstrated (pun intended). Had he mixed it with pro's point 3, of getting donations and such at satanic orgies, then he would have had a fighting chance.

As is, the debate boils down to a foregone conclusion. Pro outlines why religion is outdated, and con basically says hail Satan.