Instigator / Pro
0
1453
rating
43
debates
56.98%
won
Topic
#5497

Trumps trial proved that Rich elites are not above the law.

Status
Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics
Better arguments
0
0
Better sources
0
0
Better legibility
0
0
Better conduct
0
0

After not so many votes...

It's a tie!
Parameters
Publication date
Last updated date
Type
Standard
Number of rounds
3
Time for argument
Two weeks
Max argument characters
30,000
Voting period
Two weeks
Point system
Multiple criterions
Voting system
Open
Contender / Con
0
1566
rating
19
debates
71.05%
won
Description

I only debate serous people.

votes

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@Americandebater24
@Moozer325
@Owen_T

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>Reported Vote: Owen_T // Mod action: Removed
>Voting Policy: info.debateart.com/terms-of-service/voting-policy
>Points Awarded: conduct to con
>Reason for Decision: "American debater forfeiture"
>Reason for Mod Action:

Any unexcused forfeited round merits an automatic conduct loss, but arguments must still be voted on or justified as a tie. Repeated forfeitures waives the need to consider arguments (you still may, but by the choice of one side to miss at least 40% of the debate, the requirement ceases. And yes, this does apply to Choose Winner, which otherwise would not allow conduct to be the sole determinant).
Should either side forfeit every round or every round after their initial arguments (waiving is not an argument), the debate is considered a Full Forfeiture, and any majority votes against the absent side are not moderated (a vote may still be cast in their favor of the absentee, but is eligible for moderation to verify that it is justified via the normal voting standards).
https://info.debateart.com/terms-of-service/voting-policy#forfeitures
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@Owen_T

I also think you should probably remove your vote. If you want to do a real one, that’s fine, but if not that’s also okay.

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@Americandebater24
@Casey_Risk

Thanks for the insight. I'll ask to appeal my vote and write a new one.

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@Americandebater24
@Owen_T

Voting conduct only due to forfeiture is allowed, but only if one party misses 40% of the debate or more due to forfeitures. Missing one round in a three round debate doesn't meet this bar, so you do actually have to explain the arguments section of your vote.

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@Owen_T

Furthermore, your reasoning is flawed by assuming that it's impossible to run out of time, resulting in an automatic forfeit of a round. I was unable to write anything because time ran out. Common sense dictates that a person's willingness to engage in a debate up to the final round indicates a clear interest in continuing the debate. Therefore, it should be evident that not stating my continued interest does not equate to an intentional forfeit in the last round.

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@Owen_T

This does not change the fact that there has been no forfeiture. Forfeiture occurs when a party fails to participate for multiple rounds, or sometimes for an entire round, or if they explicitly state their concession. In contrast, I have actively participated in the debate up until the final round. Your vote does not comply with the rules. It is evident that I have put forward numerous arguments which you have overlooked, and you have not explained what my opponent said that convinced you to vote in their favor. Please cast your vote again in the proper manner, considering the arguments presented by all sides throughout the debate, and provide a genuine reason for your decision, or I will have to report this to the moderators as it is clearly unfair.

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@Americandebater24

It was the final round with no explanation. You had two weeks to write an argument. You could have added something like "I don't have time to write an argument, but I do not concede."

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@Owen_T

Missing one round is not a fioriture.