Instigator / Pro

buttmaggot15

1500

rating

debates

66.67%

won

Topic

#5087

America shouldn't be involved in the wars

Status

Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics

Winner

After 2 votes and with 2 points ahead, the winner is...

Mall

Parameters

Publication date: 11.14.2023 03:30PM
Last updated date: 11.25.2023 01:57PM
Type: Standard
Number of rounds: 3
Time for argument: One day
Max argument characters: 2,000
Voting period: One week
Point system: Winner selection
Voting system: Open

Contender / Con

Mall

1389

rating

414

debates

44.57%

won

Description

Resolution:

America shouldn't be involved in the Israel / Gaza and Russia / Ukraine wars.

Round 1

buttmaggot15

11.14.2023 06:34PM

Pro

There's nothing in it for us. It's just a waste of money. We do all these things and what do we get? We don't get anything. What we do get is people pissed off at us. It's a bad deal. And those people were helping, do they care about us? I don't think that they do. I don't think they'll be there for us if we needed help, and it's unlikely that we will need their help. America's chief responsibility is to its citizens, not to police the world. America should be putting its citizens' interests first, and getting involved in these wars is not that. This is putting the interests of other people ahead of our own. It's a mistake.

Mall

11.15.2023 04:09PM

Con

Anything that should be comes from an objective.

The objective to defend myself, I should raise my arm up to block an attempt of attack.

The objective to protect people living in a country against terrorism, what should be is a defense against the terrorism.

When it comes to wars, one side at least has to start hostility. The objective to counter that makes war. So there should be war when there is opposition with counter opposition.

For instance, the people referred to as people of color believe they're being opposed by the people referred to as white. Which are also the white supremacists. Those that participate in opposition are in war and receive counter white supremacist or counter racist moves. This happens in a "race" war or in the war on the people of color.

I digress.

The involvement of any entity or being opposing what is opposing them is war .

A party or entity should be involved in war as what would constitute it would be countering that which is upon demand to do so within resisting the war itself.

Round 2

buttmaggot15

11.16.2023 04:09PM

Pro

Forfeited

Mall

11.16.2023 08:54PM

Con

I yield.

Round 3

buttmaggot15

11.17.2023 08:54PM

Pro

Forfeited

Mall

11.18.2023 01:57PM

Con

Hey case closed. You should be involved in war when under attack and you counter attack. That's what war is.

Americandebater24

11.20.2023 02:31AM

Criterion

Pro

Tie

Con

Points

Winner

1 point(s)

Reason:

The topic would have been interesting. However, pro forfeited the debate.

Savant

11.19.2023 07:13PM

Criterion

Pro

Tie

Con

Points

Winner

1 point(s)

Reason:

Full forfeit