English is not the greatest language
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- Not to be surpassed
- Largest in size of those under consideration
- Most of
- Highest in importance
- Highest in quality.
- Fastest
- Most Efficient
- Easiest to learn
- Most native speakers
A unit of spoken language consisting of a single uninterrupted sound formed by a vowel, diphthong, or syllabic consonant alone, or by any of these sounds preceded, followed, or surrounded by one or more consonants. [2]
- French simplifies all past forms (I did, I have done, I did do) into one form of the past.
- Word stressing/emphasis is consistent and predictable
- Less vocabulary
- Accents help with pronunciation—see Spanish below which also has this benefit
- Pronunciation rules are consistent (which is a huge problem with english… comb tomb and bomb have a different “o” sound).
- Spelling is intuitive given consistent pronunciation rules
- Exceptions make sense given how basic phonetics work
- Accents help with pronunciation, making pronunciation even simpler
Definition of greatest: having the highest rank in ability, quality, and eminence.
Although, English can still be the greatest language despite being able to speak more syllables per second in Japanese than in English because English is ranks higher than Japanese on average in the other factors. In fact, I posit that English ranks highest in all the factors on average.
Therefore, my opponent in order to win this debate needs to demonstrate that one specific language ranks higher in all of the factors than English on average.
French has less variety in terms than English, which compiled terms from French and other languages
Virtually no written works of importance are originally written in Spanish.
- Don Quijote de la Mancha (perhaps the most famous of them all)
- Cien Años de Soledad
- El Día Que Se Perdió la Cordura
- Veinte Poemas de Amor y una Canción Desesperada
To quote my opponent, "Esperanto is entirely artificial."
The language has no history
Its also has no future, since relatively nobody speaks it compared to English.
No books, plays, songs, or any other works of value have been originally written in Esperanto.
“Chinese is perhaps the hardest language to learn”
There are less Chinese speakers than English speakers.
Finally, my opponent mentions that there are more native speakers of some languages other than English, although this is a misdirection since English is the most spoken language (https://www.ethnologue.com/insights/ethnologue200/).
- Rise of British Empire
- British Colonization
- Rise of United States
- Rise of English/West European scientific community
- British world trading
- American Music and Film
- American development of technology and ASCII
- number of speakers
- ability to communicate nuances
- noteworthy works originally written in it
- use in movies
- how many syllables can be spoken per second
- bits per character/efficiency
- Easiest to learn
- number of native speakers
more than 100 periodicals have been published and more than 30,000 books have been published in Esperanto
Keep in mind you are actually misquoting your source here. Your source only says it is a difficult language to learn, not it is the hardest
The most difficult languages — Arabic, Chinese, Korean and Japanese — require, on average, 1.69 years (88 weeks), or 2,200 class hours, to reach speaking and reading proficiency. (https://www.businessinsider.com/the-hardest-languages-to-learn-2014-5?op=1)
The definition of "greatness" I provided in the previous round is based upon the definition of "great" in the New Oxford American Dictionary.
If someone says that Ferrari is not greatest car ever made. Then someone asks which car is better. He responds by saying that the Bentley has better seats and the Lamborghini has a better engine and the Tesla has better doors.
Therefore, I do not believe I have moved the goal post at all. The requirement is logical, reasonable, and fair.
I contest that the number of speakers is more important than the number of native speakers and the ability to communicate nuances is more important than being easier to learn.
There is no precise formula to determine which factors are more important than others
In fact, I posit that English ranks highest in all the factors on average
although its has been established that English ranks either number one or within the top five of all of the factors named so far.
My opponent countered this claim by listing four books originally written in Spanish; only one in my opinion, Don Quijote, is important
because when compared to the books originally written in English compared to those in Spanish, the Spanish's number is shockingly unimpressive. Out of the 101 best selling fiction authors, 71 of them write in English (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_fiction_authors).
Relatively nobody speaks Esperanto compared to English; between one and two million people speak Esperanto, while over one billion four hundred and fifty million (1,450,000,000) speak English
First, publishing a book in Esperanto is different than writing a book in Esperanto. Any book can be translated and published in any language.
The most difficult languages — Arabic, Chinese, Korean and Japanese — require, on average, 1.69 years (88 weeks), or 2,200 class hours, to reach speaking and reading proficiency.
Furthermore, the characters in Chinese are special and learning a new alphabet is very difficult. English shares the Latin alphabet with many European languages, which makes learning English vary easy for Europeans. Conversely, learning other European languages is easier for English speakers. Chinese speakers do not have this advantage.
My opponent attempts to refute the relevance of there being more English speakers than speakers of any other language by stating that before 2014 this was not the case and that English become the most spoken language by achievements made by countries that primarily speak English. I do not believe either of these facts discredit the truth that English is the most spoken language.
English only overtook Chinese as the most spoken language in 2014, which was quite recent. …Why?
- Rise of British Empire
- British Colonization
- Rise of United States
- Rise of English/West European scientific community
- British world trading
- American Music and Film
- American development of technology and ASCII
In response to the Martian hypothetical, I am not saying that the most widely spoken language is necessarily the greatest language, it just one factor, albeit an important one. I am also not saying that English has always been the greatest language or will continue to be, I saying it is currently the greatest language.
- Not to be surpassed
In conclusion, my opponent has refused to name one language that is greater than English overall.
My arguments concerned with the number of speakers, ability to communicate nuances, noteworthy works originally written in it, and its use in movies have not been refuted.
- Con claims that English is the best language in terms of “averaging” but still has not provided any mathematical means of doing so.
- Con continually compares apples to oranges, by comparing benefits of one language to another to make a decision, which cannot be achieved.
- I have stated statistical evidence of native speakers, memorization, speech efficiency, and speed in describing multiple ways of how languages are superior to English
- Con fails to realize that different languages can be used for different purposes (similar to how different cars or different browsers can be used for different purposes)
- Con fails to realize events of British power, American power, and rise of scientific discovery of America/Britain caused the English language to grow, and any other language could be superior if they did the exact same events Britain and America did.
- Con continuously evaluates languages from the standpoint that everybody on Earth knows English. (or from a European standpoint, instead of the entire world).
- Con shifts BOP to ask me to do more than what is demanded (prove that English is not the best vs provide a language superior to English)
- Con made 5 contradictions/fallacies in just Round 3 args alone.
1. Most widely spoken
This stands as obvious fact. It was undisputed by Pro. However, the importance of being most widely spoken was disputed.
2. Fastest
3. Most efficient
4. Easiest to learn
Points 2-4
I really feel there was lots of struggle on both sides. On one hand, it was not "English vs one language.". It was english vs lots of other languages. On the other hand, English doesnt come up on top in all classes, but also beats all other languages in some classes. English may not be easiest to learn, but esperanto doesnt have many speakers.
5. Most native speakers
This stands undisputed by Con.
6. Important works
I would say that yes, many important works are written in English, but some are written in other languages too.
Guys, I am gonna leave it as a tie. There were plenty of good points on both sides. I am not really sure how to compare properly since the definitions were too broad.
The time it takes to learn Spanish depends on several factors, such as:
https://kochiva.com/blog/how-long-does-it-take-to-learn-spanish-language/
Your current language level: If you're a complete beginner, it will take longer than if you already have some knowledge of Spanish.
Your native language: If your first language is similar to Spanish (like Italian, Portuguese, or French), you may find it easier and quicker to learn.
thx
You need to provide descriptions for debates, please.
I love English but I have to say French is better. Just more efficient. If I could change countries I would switch to Africa, but if I could switch languages I would do french.
English is most widely used and known, yes.