Instigator / Con
7
1500
rating
9
debates
27.78%
won
Topic
#4665
Male Circumcision
Status
Finished
The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.
Winner & statistics
After 3 votes and with 14 points ahead, the winner is...
Devon
Parameters
- Publication date
- Last updated date
- Type
- Standard
- Number of rounds
- 3
- Time for argument
- Three days
- Max argument characters
- 5,500
- Voting period
- One month
- Point system
- Multiple criterions
- Voting system
- Open
Contender / Pro
21
1482
rating
24
debates
41.67%
won
Description
Resolution
"Male circumcision should be done more often than not"
Interpretation
This means pro must prove that males should mostly (at least 51% of the time) get a circumcision.
Rules
1. Use MLA citations the following cite can help if you don't know how to make them yourself https://www.citationmachine.net/mla
The reason for this is so neither party has to be paranoid about malicious links. I am already doing a great deal to use citations from English sources, the least my opponent can do is use MLA citations.
Round 1
Introduction:
I want voters to imagine themselves as babies just coming into the world. You could hear the soothing voices of your parents in the womb., feel your mother's closeness. One day you are suddenly thrust into the world. It is too bright to see, but you hear the loving voice of your mother and feel her warm embrace so you feel safe.
Not to long after being born, the only people you trust put you into the hands of a stranger who assures you that everything will be okay. You trust your parents, what could go wrong. Not long after being whisked away, the doctor takes off your diaper and grabs your penis and you aren't sure what's happening.
You feel an intense pain in your groin area and cry it will hurt for weeks after as well. The pain from the mutilation of your genitals isn't perhaps the worst pain. The worst pain is th bettayel of the only people you trusted. The people who were supposed to keep you safe.
Psychological and physical distress
Circumcision is a the act of brutally cutting off the foreskin of a penis, typically leaving an infant with permanent scarring around the penis and possible irreversible psychological damage from birth.
The pain in circumcision is intense and the article cited for this information shows the intense pain is linked to symptoms similar to those who were abused as children. Symptoms such as PTSD, depression, anger, intimacy issues, loss of control, and perception that the act is punishment for something.[1]
The act of putting a child through this very physically painful process with proven traumatic psychological consequences, means it shouldn't be done without a really good reason, and in most cases there just isn't one.
Intimacy issues
I don't know about any of th other ladies reading this, but I love giving blowjobs. It's one of the best ways to control men and get them to obey you.
The only problem I sometimes have, is that sometimes my blow job's are less pleasurable than they could be. Whether I just do an old fashioned BJ technique, put popping candy in my mouth first or consume a lot of ice cream to make my tongue as cold as possible, some men just have a more difficult time receiving the full pleasure that other men receive.
According to a study of 1500 men, circumcised males experienced less intense orgasms, received less pleasure during sex and most surprisingly of all were more likely to experience pain, numbness or tingling sensations due to lack of circulation. [2]
The theory is that without the protective foreskin the head of the unprotected penis, rubs against th pants and gradually the nerve most sensitive part of the penis starts losing the sensitivity needed to fully appreciate my blowjobs.
Cut penis looks weird
American women are fat and ugly. Maybe circumcised penis looks good to them but russian women are prettier, and we are used to real men who have their entire penis intact. If you want a fat American woman, good for you but I say you should strive to be with pretty girls like me, and bot sell yourself short.
Accidents happen
People often overlook that accidents happen in circumcision. That's a knife to your own dick if you get one as an adult and the risks as an adult are even worse than for babies.
People forget, accidents happen. A lot of accidents. Thousands of surgery a year result in the doctor undercutting or overcutting and there are 1 million people with urethra problems from being circumcised. [3]
There needs to be a compelling reason to risk this in order to justify most people getting a circumcision.
Kids should not be harmed
It's one thing for an adult to give permission to take a risk of cutting off a bit of their penis for some very minimal advantage that could just as easily be obtained with proper hygiene and wearing a condom.
It's a completely different thing to subject a baby to the unbearable psychological and physical trauma caused by the excessive amount of pain caused by circumcisions
Conclusion:
Ladies, please do not start mutilating the genitals of your children
Gentlemen, if your mother was kind enough not to take a knife to your genitals, please don't hire somebody to start cutting your penis up. The torture of the procedure is not worth it and whatever mild benefit it has can be easily mitigated through other methods, such as practicing good hygiene and using a condom when appropriate.
Sources
1. Narvaez, Darcia. “Circumcision’s Psychological Damage.” Psychology Today, 11 Jan. 2015, www.psychologytoday.com/intl/blog/moral-landscapes/201501/circumcision-s-psychological-damage.
2. Bronselaer, Guy A., et al. “Male Circumcision Decreases Penile Sensitivity as Measured in a Large Cohort.” BJU International, vol. 111, no. 5, 2013, pp. 820–827, https://doi.org/10.1111/j.1464-410x.2012.11761.x.
3. Seaman, Andrew M. “Complications Rare with Baby Circumcisions, Rise with Age.” Reuters, 12 May 2014, www.reuters.com/article/usa-healthcare-circumcision/complications-rare-with-baby-circumcisions-rise-with-age-idUSL1N0NY0Q020140512.
Circumcision: A procedure that removes the foreskin from the human penis, usually can due to cultural reasons.
Rebuttals:
According to a study of 1500 men, circumcised males experienced less intense orgasms, received less pleasure during sex and most surprisingly of all were more likely to experience pain, numbness or tingling sensations due to lack of circulation.
"There's a lot of speculation that men with foreskin have more penis sensitivity than men who don't. However, that may not necessarily be true. Medical research efforts have not concluded whether circumcised men have better sex than those who still have their foreskin or vice versa. The evidence so far has been pretty conflicting.
One article (Ironically, Con's source) published in 2013 found that among 1,059 uncircumcised men and 310 circumcised men, the men who had undergone circumcision had less sensitivity.
Another article published in the American Urological Association compared the sensitivity of 32 uncircumcised males and 30 circumcised males. Researchers found no major difference between sensitivity levels of either group.
And a third clinical study into sexual function related to foreskin or lack thereof has found no major difference between the two.
Circumcision does not seem to have any bearing on sensitivity levels, sexual pleasure, or even pain during intercourse."
Source: Circumcised vs Uncircumcised: Pros and Cons to Each – Promescent (Under How Does It Affect Sex?)
Cut penis looks weird
At least one analysis of database searches found that most women prefer circumcised men.
The reasons cited:
- Appearance
- Hygiene
- Decreased risk of infection
- Enhanced sexual pleasure
American women are fat and ugly. Maybe circumcised penis looks good to them but russian women are prettier, and we are used to real men who have their entire penis intact. If you want a fat American woman, good for you but I say you should strive to be with pretty girls like me, and bot sell yourself short.
"Fat and ugly" women can be anywhere, not just in America. That's like saying there's only black people in the United States when they are everywhere. They are in the UK and other parts of the world. Not all of men/women in America are "fat and ugly". Anyone can be anything, just because they are at a certain place doesn't mean anything, I think you're just reinforcing this stereotype of America. Russian women can be "fat and ugly" and I'm sure there are some.
if you get one as an adult and the risks as an adult are even worse than for babies.
That's true, which is all the more reason why it's been more ideal with it being done as babies. I agree that adults should give consent and permission whether or not they want to be circumcised, but getting circumcised as an adult is more painful and has a higher risk of complications which is why many parents choose to have it done to their newborn. Again it's their choice though.
Psychological/trauma
I'm circumcised and turned out fine. No psychological issues or anything. Perhaps this applies to some men but not all.
Pros for circumcision
- Hygiene. Easier to keep private area clean. Yes you can still be dirty circumcised but the chances are lower as it's easier to clean. The foreskin can trap bacteria causing irritation and skin issues. Even uncircumcised men can still be clean it's all based on your hygiene but for circumcised men it's less work.
- Male babies are susceptible to UTI them if they aren't cleaned properly or spent too much time in the same diaper. Studies have shown that baby boys who are circumcised may be more protected because there's less of an area for bacteria to get trapped and as they grow older, they might be protected from other serious conditions. STI's are a major problem for both men and women and you never know when a partner might be carrying a virus that can range from an uncomfortable personal situation to a deadly pathogen. The foreskin makes it more likely that bacteria, viruses or fungi would get trapped and travel from one partner to another including HIV.
- Studies have proven that circumcised men may have an added layer of protection and it may even prevent cancer because STI and infections of the genital area can lead to cervical cancer for women, it's considered healthier for women to have sex with circumcised partners who are less likely to transmit diseases from the area around their penis, but the men aren't left out of this benefit either. A 2005 study showed that circumcised men were at a lower risk of developing penile cancer.
- Women also stated that they were more satisfied sexually with a circumcised man. Not saying all women but there are women who prefer it.
The pros of circumcision outweigh the cons.
Round 2
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Wow same acc? Or someone copying her? Wth 😂
Devon, look at Con’s formatting for Round 1.
Now compare it to PREZ-Hilton’s formatting in his two Tournament debates.:
1. https://www.debateart.com/debates/4333-w-o-f-tournament-laissez-faire-capitalism-is-more-efficient-than-social-democracy
2. https://www.debateart.com/debates/4391-%5Bwdt%5D-on-balance-the-german-invasion-of-poland-1939-was-justified
What do you notice?
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