The Quran has 0 contradictions; The Bible has many
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After 3 votes and with 12 points ahead, the winner is...
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I believe that the Quran has 0 contradictions and the Bible has many. My position is this and I want a challenger who thinks the Quran has 1 or more contradictions in it or the Bible has 0 or both.
I believe this opponent is a timewaster and will forfeit every round. I will make one argument and submit and lets see.
The Bible contains many contradictions.
'Matthew 27:5- Then he threw down the pieces of silver in the temple and departed, and went and hanged himself.'Acts 1:18- Now this man purchased a field with the wages of iniquity; and falling headlong, he burst open in the middle and all his entrails gushed out.Did Judas hang himself or fall headlong?I am only going to make one argument because I don't want to waste my time with this guy.
Quran Contradiction- The creation of manMy initial argument will be centered around a single contradiction in the Quran. The creation of man."Created man, out of a clot of congealed blood" - (96:2)"We created man from sounding clay, from mud moulded into shape" - (15:26)"The similitude of Jesus before Allah is that of Adam; He created him from dust, then said to him: 'Be'. And he was." - (3:59)"He has created man from a sperm-drop; and behold this same (man) becomes an open disputer" - (16:4)
Lmao, I have not blocked you. Anyway, I have encountered many new accounts with nothing in their bio who just created their accounts which led me to think you would be a time waster, apologies for that.
Anyway, to answer the 'misconception' that Con has presentedQuran Contradiction- The creation of manMy initial argument will be centered around a single contradiction in the Quran. The creation of man."Created man, out of a clot of congealed blood" - (96:2)"We created man from sounding clay, from mud moulded into shape" - (15:26)"The similitude of Jesus before Allah is that of Adam; He created him from dust, then said to him: 'Be'. And he was." - (3:59)"He has created man from a sperm-drop; and behold this same (man) becomes an open disputer" - (16:4)You easily got this from the internet because I have seen this one before,The first man, Adam (AS) was created from dust/clay/mudA sperm drop is a stage of how babies are bornThe clot is a stage of how babies are bornLife originates from waterIt has been answered hundreds of times, at least give me something better!Con has not fulfilled the challenge of giving a single contradiction from the Quran.
I don't believe that you have shown that this isn't a contradiction if you interpret the text literally. If we aren't going to interpret the text literally as it is written, then any contradiction can be explained away with symbolism. If the Quran literally says man was created out of a clot of congealed blood, then later says he was created from clay and mud, then later dust, then later from a sperm drop, that is an absolute contradiction unless you begin to interpret the words in a way other than they were written.
Quran Contradiction 2 - Allah's perception of timeAllah's perception of time is cited multiple times as being 1,000 years, then later being cited at 50,000 years."A day in the sight of the Lord is like a thousand years of your reckoning." - (22:47)"To Him, on a Day, the space whereof will be a thousand years of your reckoning." - (32:5)"The angels and the spirit ascend unto him in a day the measure whereof is fifty thousand years." - (70:4)
Quran Contradiction 3 - Flat EarthThe Quran clearly states that the earth is flat. While this isn't the text contradicting itself, the text is contradicting what we know to be scientific fact."Allah was sure that the Earth is flat like a carpet and that mountains are there to anchor the earth so that the Earth does not shake with us. Allah is really an excellent scientist." - (78:7)
15:28-29- ˹Remember, O Prophet˺ when your Lord said to the angels, “I am going to create a human being from sounding clay moulded from black mud. So when I have fashioned him and had a spirit of My Own ˹creation˺ breathed into him, fall down in prostration to him.3:59-Indeed, the example of Jesus in the sight of Allah is like that of Adam. He created him from dust, then said to him, “Be!” And he was!2 verses state 'humans'. The other two are quite clearly referring to the creation of Adam which are 15:28 and 3:59.The 2 verses speaking about Adam. He was created from dust mixed with water to make mud. It is a very simple explanation.
Quran Contradiction 2 - Allah's perception of timeAllah's perception of time is cited multiple times as being 1,000 years, then later being cited at 50,000 years."A day in the sight of the Lord is like a thousand years of your reckoning." - (22:47)"To Him, on a Day, the space whereof will be a thousand years of your reckoning." - (32:5)"The angels and the spirit ascend unto him in a day the measure whereof is fifty thousand years." - (70:4)Again a very easy and simple misconception that people seem to have. A day is not specified within the Quran, it literally means 'a period of time'. The Arabic word for day is 'yawm'. This can mean a day or a period of time.As well as this, it is not one event the Quran is talking about. For example, the first verse is talking about hell. The second is talking about the affairs going up to Allah and the 3rd is talking about judgement day. No contradiction, next.
Quran Contradiction 3 - Flat EarthThe Quran clearly states that the earth is flat. While this isn't the text contradicting itself, the text is contradicting what we know to be scientific fact."Allah was sure that the Earth is flat like a carpet and that mountains are there to anchor the earth so that the Earth does not shake with us. Allah is really an excellent scientist." - (78:7)Again wrong. This is the translation.78:6- Have We not smoothed out the earth ˹like a bed˺,78:7- and ˹made˺ the mountains as ˹its˺ pegs,78:6 is talking about how the earth is spread so that people, animals etc can prosper. There are people from all over the world with different terrains and different eco systems. And then 78:7 backs this up to not be a 'flat earth claim' because it says the mountains are pegs. Now this is not a contradiction, quite the opposite because we only know from less than 100 years ago that mountains have roots so how could the Quran claim this 1400 years ago? No contradiction.
This is my last round, I cannot write anymore. These are just silly misconceptions that people have when going to google and clicking the first link on a page.
Con effectively demonstrated the contradictory nature of the Quran, while Pro's rebuttals mainly attributed these issues to translation misunderstandings and did not adequately address the contradictions presented by Con. As both parties used the same material, neither can be awarded better sources, and there were no differences in legibility to warrant a vote in that regard. Con maintained a professional demeanor throughout, whereas Pro became contemptuous and disrespectful towards Con towards the end.
I accept Con's contradictions. A contradiction claim is subjective. The contradiction claim about Adam, on its face, is "res ipsa loquitor". Pro did not do enough to demonstrate that the apparent contradiction, is not in fact one. Pro would have needed to demonstrate where this language was intentionally multi-faceted, rather than trying to justify. In part, the argument about sperm is nonsensical, as there is no evidence that when the Quran was written, there was knowledge of sperm as a single cell. Our current understanding is that sperm was identified in 1677. Conduct against Pro for the assumption of timewasting, and the LMAO. Not a very polite thing. "and speak to people good words". Surah Al-Baqarah (2:83),
Pro accuses con of being a timewaster and puts a lackluster argument in R1 because he thinks con will full forfeit. While pro apologizes later, this still loses a conduct point. Regarding arguments con gives a contradiction in the Quran which pro meets with an argument that things could be interpreted differently, which doesn't show the lack of contradiction.
After my semester, would you be interested in debating about Islam and the Quran?
Nicely done first round.