Robert Greene is a sham.

(Robert Greene presents himself as a guru on strategy and leadership.)
The focus of the debate on whether he is or isn’t. Pro, of course, argues he is not.

Law 33 Summary: “Discover Each Man's Thumbscrew”

Once you discover what a person's weakness is and cater to it, you can use the person to your own advantage as “what people cannot control, you can control for them” (499). You can find out a person's weakness by listening and observing carefully.

Law #14: Pose as a Friend, Work as a Spy. Collecting information through spying is essential to wielding power.

According to Law 24 of the 48 Laws of Power, to thrive in whatever court or environment you're playing for power in, learn the rules and know how to manipulate them. Even in modern times, a skilled courtier or functionary who can successfully navigate and thrive in the world of power has great power himself.

"I'm not who people expect me to be," says Greene, an earnest, thoughtful 53-year-old with a somewhat tense smile. "I'm not Henry Kissinger." In conversation at his London publisher's office, as in his books, he always has an apt quotation to hand. "Charles de Gaulle said, I realised that when people met me they were expecting to meet Charles de Gaulle. I had to learn to be the man inside the quotes. But generally I prefer to be myself. I don't have to pretend to be this mastermind."

Greene doesn't think he's evil, obviously, but nor does he consider himself particularly good. He says he's just a realist. "I believe I described a reality that no other book tried to describe," he says. "I went to an extreme for literary purposes because I felt all the self-help books out there were so gooey and Pollyanna-ish and nauseating. It was making me angry."
Even if The 48 Laws of Power can be read as a bastard's handbook, he wrote it to demystify the dirty tricks of the executives he encountered during a dispiriting period as a Hollywood screenwriter. "I felt like a child exposing what the parents are up to and laughing at it," he says. "Opening the curtain and letting people see the Wizard of Oz."

He turns down a lot of consultancy work because he is only drawn to people with interesting life stories, whether Charney (he's on American Apparel's board of directors), 50 Cent (they collaborated on 2009's The 50th Law) or Barack Obama. He is now working with labour organisers in Latin America, and his liberal politics disappoint some of his fans in the business world, who expect him to be a champion of the ruthless go-getter.

"I'm a huge Obama supporter," he says. "Romney is satan to me. The great thing about America is that you can come from the worst circumstances and become something remarkable. It's Jay-Z and 50 Cent and Obama and my Jewish ancestors – that's the America we want to celebrate. Not the vulture capitalist. These morons like Mitt Romney, they produce nothing. Republicans are feeding off fairytales and that's what did them in this year and hopefully will keep doing them in for ever, because they're a lot of scoundrels."

"WHY WOULD YOU TITLE IT THAT WAY IF YOU WERE SAYING HE ISN'T A SHAM???????

"The focus of the debate on whether he is or isn’t. Pro, of course, argues he is not."

you troll"

(Robert Greene presents himself as a guru on strategy and leadership.)
The focus of the debate on whether he is or isn’t. Pro, of course, argues he is not.

Sham- Something that is not what it purports to be; a spurious imitation.

There's a major issue with this debate's resolution. This is apparent from Pro's haphazard Round 1 where it is clear Pro is attacking all sorts of things.

For instance, is a sham one who knows they are lying and preaches it? Is a sham one who is mistaken and preaches falsehoods while firmly believing in it? 

If Robert Greene is proven by Con to be accidentally correct or intentionally incorrect, only one of the two can be defined as sham-categorised, the other allows Con to push against Pro without fighting the other part of Pro's case.

Another issue is what is the work ethic of a sham versus a genuine author of nonfictional works? Robert Greene has researched for countless hours to an extremely high degree of precision into all sorts of leaders, war lords and general strategists such as Myamoto Musashi which was the world's most lethal Samurai.

To say he is a sham seems to be a wishywashy sham-like statement in itself. At the moment I don't know specifically what I'm defending against and Robert Greene taught me never to enter the battle aggressively until I am sure how to defend against my opponent's attack.

• His strategies are limited and unethical. (He preaches that deception and manipulation are the ONLY ways of being successful.)
  
• He has no experience as a diplomat. (He is no Nicolo Machiavelli, and he is no Dale Carnegie.)
  

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• "One of the most perverse facts of human nature is that those who believe the world to be a terrible place very often take it upon themselves to make it worse. Those who judge the good deeds of others to be a cover for self-interest invariably see unalloyed egoism on their own part as the only rational response. Robert Greene has done very well out of it, setting himself up as a modern-day Machiavelli. He is the highly successful author of cynical tracts on how to get ahead and how to get laid. His latest work looks like a guide to winning in combat, but the subject matter is really the same as that of his earlier books, for he sees every aspect of life in terms of a war of all against all."