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Topic
#4259
Life is not created at conception.
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The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.
Winner & statistics
After 4 votes and with 4 points ahead, the winner is...
Mall
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Description
Disclaimer : Regardless of the setup for voting win or lose, The aim of this interaction, Is for those that view it, Learn and or take away anything that will amount to any constructive value ultimately. So that counts as anything that'll cause one to reconsider an idea, Understand a subject better, Help build a greater wealth of knowledge getting closer to truth. When either of us has accomplished that with any individual here, That's who the victor of the debate becomes.
Life does not begin at conception. You can call it reproduction. Life existed before conception. That's why this term procreation is really just about confusion. Then there's needless controversy over where or when "life starts".
If you need to understand something prior to participating in the discussion, let it be known.
Round 1
I thought of this topic based on what people say .
People argue over when does "life" begin .
Some say this is a semantic argument/debate.
Well if people use their words more carefully, their positions wouldn't be challenged. It's time to stop throwing words around.
Be specific and concise, logical and sound in your stance. Test it, verify it for consistency. Do not base it by consensus but by foundation of the natural laws of science, physics, biology. This is the criteria built upon the universe so it is universal standard.
Life does not begin at conception. You can call it reproduction. Life existed before conception. That's why this term procreation is really just about confusion. Then there's needless controversy over where or when "life starts".
Now the word "procreation" I believe when we research the definition of this word, it means reproduce of a species or kind; produce offspring.
But what is noticable about the way the word is crafted you have "pro" and "creation". You can say that first part is short for produce. So we have "produce creation". Now when something is created, it didn't exist before. When something is created it means it just begun. Hence the statement "life is created" or "life has begun".
Now you can say this is just observation at terms and semantics. But I'm pointing all this out to look at the larger scope of the picture which I'm a champion of in many topics.
Life begins at conception. That's pretty much the nominal statement for a stance that people take.
I say life does not begin at conception. Certainly the reproduction of it has. Now maybe this is what people mean. But it's time to start saying what you mean as much as meaning what you say. This topic is to shed light on this fallacy .
Now where does life begin? When does life begin?
My position and answer is not all that complicated. In fact it's super elementary when you think about in terms of the word "life".
Where do you think ? After all what is life?
According to a Google search on the word, here's what we have.
"the condition that distinguishes animals and plants from inorganic matter, including the capacity for growth, reproduction, functional activity, and continual change preceding death."
Oh that's pretty detailed. That's good as we can't have a broad definition because then we can almost include any and everything under the term life, huh. Even inanimate objects that function and cease functioning like appliances and automobiles . Planes, trains and automobiles.
So something that has more than a function and dies.
So just keep this mind when looking at the statement "life starts at conception ".
Keep it in mind when looking at this question.
So when does life start Mr. Mall?
Since the answer is so simple, I'll leave this chapter or round on a cliffhanger. Tune in to the next episode.
Forfeited
Round 2
Come on with the counter responses. If you don't have time for these debates just take a seat in the audience.
Sorry, I just really busy this week with school. Let's just say that you win this debate since I didn't have time to publish a round.
Round 3
You guys just gloss over that disclaimer. I'm not losing or winning. I edify based on those who witness me being victorious in doing so.
We have a few more rounds. Might as well express at least a viewpoint on the topic.
Honestly I'd rather not. It's personally not very fun for me to debate unless it's formal and done in a standard-round format. I apologize for the inconvenience. Next week I shouldn't be as busy, last week I had a total of 4 tests (2 of which were in AP/honors classes) so I literally had no time I spent that wasn't studying.
Round 4
It's ok folks, the opposing side wasn't ready. They do find time to respond though.
Forfeited
Round 5
After the opposing side seen where I was going, they couldn't come up with a counter case.
Case closed.
Got to know what you're walking into it.
Forfeited
Dumb debate. It began on a false premise.
The abortion debate and the issue of conception is about when a separate human life form has been created, not the utter existence of "life" in and of itself.
Just dumb. Poorly thought of. Poorly executed.
This was probably a inspired debate.
this is more an arguement of intelligence, as all things has life to it.
but to what point is intelligence and identity associated to a human being? as a specific group of cells combine?
This is really just a semantic argument. A human life begins at conception, but cells can be considered alive.